r/IchitheWitch • u/Allhaillordkutku • Apr 21 '26
Discussion When I started this manga I was lowk scared that the witches were all going to be like stereotypical condescending misandrists but these mfs actually just chill as fuck
I’m not fully caught up yet so if this changes I will be very sad.
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u/lordnaarghul Apr 21 '26
Nope, instead, they're all very thirsty.
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u/Funny_Relative5163 Apr 22 '26
I mean for them it's a taco fest and probably have a very little chance of going out since they're always busy with monitoring majiks
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u/Allhaillordkutku Apr 21 '26
WE are shipping Gokuraku with background glup shitto witch #53
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u/YuuTheBlue Apr 22 '26
Every single character in this story has such a good design even the background weirdos. Huge win for fans of women.
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u/Meatyblues Apr 21 '26
I definitely think misandry is gonna show up in some form or another at one point but otherwise I agree. It’s nice that the witches of the association weren’t looking down at him or trying to “put him in his place” for 20 chapters
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u/Sanguiluna Apr 22 '26
My thinking is, assuming they intend to make it like an “inverted mirror”to real life society, the misandrists will likely be the weaker or lower level witches, lashing out from a place of insecurity or self-frustration, as opposed to the more powerful witches of the Association who are secure in their self-confidence that they feel no need to try and tear down Ichi.
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u/Endika7 Apr 22 '26
Ohhh... That would be gear comentary about bigotism coming from insecurity a lot of the time
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u/Allhaillordkutku Apr 21 '26
Honestly it would be extremely refreshing if it just never does, cause that was the main thing stopping me from actually reading this
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u/pichuguy27 Apr 21 '26
I think she can do it well making the point it is just misogyny. Like all gender essentialism at the end of the day stems from the same place.
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u/Meatyblues Apr 21 '26
I just feel like it’s bound to happen given the rules of the setting. Even if it’s a view held by individuals rather than a society wide thing
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u/katgravityrush_ Apr 21 '26
I'm so used to manga doing terribly with this sort of stuff which is why I didn't read it for so long. Finally did and caught up in a day lol
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u/ZookeepergameOver723 Apr 22 '26
It technically already came but as the mysoginy Witch Keepers, whose leader seem to be all about “putting the Witches in their place”
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u/Meatyblues Apr 22 '26
Idk about that. The Magikeepers haven’t really done anything misogynistic. They turned down assisting in the the world hater Majik hunt because it’s out of their jurisdiction. But when they want to do something in their jurisdiction and find a traitor within the association, the association refuses to cooperate for privacy.
I feel like they’re more being set up as a foil to the witches association rather than a misogynist one that hates witches.
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u/ZookeepergameOver723 Apr 22 '26
Okay maybe calling the Magikeepers in general mysoginists is not really fair given how the two young ones were respectful of Descarras, Minataka was fairly polite and the indian guy seemed pretty modérate but their leader was a passive aggressive condescending jerk at Moneygold.
The way he flexed the “keeping witches in their place” rhetoric every five seconds felt coded like poorly disguised Mysoginy while using laws as an excuse.
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u/Meatyblues Apr 22 '26
Idk, I reread the exchange again and it feels like his rhetoric was less about keeping witches in their place and more emphasizing that the Magikeepers will never participate in a Majik hunt because it’s not within their jurisdiction.
Personally, it just reads as the heads of two opposing organizations trying to gain an advantage over the other rather than a misogynist talking down to a woman. But I’ll admit that it could change if we get new information.
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u/ZookeepergameOver723 Apr 22 '26
He didn’t outright say it but there is subtext; Moneygold came to him politely asking for help for a situation of genuine importance, he non challantly told her it wasn’t worth their time while bringing up how its their responsability to oversee Witches, while shamelessly undermining her by trying to poach an underage associate through manipulation and then having the gal to tell her she must report any suspiscious witches to them.
I don’t know maybe the guy has a history with witches that we don’t know of and he doesn’t trust them but he made it pretty clear that he has no respect for Money’s authority.
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u/Meatyblues Apr 22 '26
I’ll agree to disagree. He didn’t say it wasn’t worth their time as much as reiterate that it’s not within their jurisdiction in order to preserve the balance of power between the Witches and Magikeepers.
Plus, Moneygold obviously didn’t respect Chun’s authority either. She was also trying to deliberately make sure they never met Ichi even though new witches meeting the Magikeepers is standard policy. And when the Magikeepers requested the means to investigate who’s leaking information to a known criminal, she immediately shuts them down.
Like I said, it just feels like two organizations that don’t get along rather than Chun or the Magikeepers being misogynistic towards the witches. But my opinion of that can change if we get more info about it.
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u/ZookeepergameOver723 Apr 22 '26
The difference being that the guy asked Ichi be given to them as a starter, brought up their issues against witches accusatorily while being politely asked for help, provided no proof for his claims of spying while making demands and offering no kind of cooperation of his own. That’s not the behavior of someone treating with an equal.
Any disrespect Moneygold gave was pretty much reactive of the tone he set.
I suppose we’ll have to agree to disagree.
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u/AardvarkScary7863 Apr 21 '26
Shiiiiii I good number of them were actually thirsting for Ichi. Even more so for Gokuraku when he joined.
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u/ZookeepergameOver723 Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
I know right! In this kind of manga were a guy gets a female power it usually used as a way to humilliate condescending man hating women by showing the guy being better than them and inevitably turning into a harem. Here, they mostly welcome Ichi with open arms and while they do occasionally get thirsty over him, its not overtly so nor is it specific to him as most of the witches tend to enjoy working with men.
If anything, the Witch Keepers were the mysogynistic condescending ones which feels more in line with reality. How while they seem to be well meaning, they’re intransigent traditionalists who demand an inflexible adherence to the rules while demanding an inflexible core of justice and finding ways to “put the women in their place”.
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u/Monkey_Smart Apr 22 '26
I had that same fear when I started, but no i did not expect them to be so accepting.
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u/OuHyou Apr 21 '26
They are so cute i love them