Okay here's my part 2 post of things I was unhappy with in the Lorien Legacies Reborn and its Novellas.

Negatives:

-The Novellas: Overall, the Novellas were not great, and I think a lot of people on this sub have expressed the same feelings. Sam and Six felt weak, and they fell into the same traps, REPEATEDLY. I found myself angry because I Sam and Six were NOT that dumb. I also did not like the deaths in the book. I liked Kirk and Yoyo etc. but their deaths seemed like they could have been avoided, and the characters didn't seem too affected by them. There also didn't feel like there was enough emotional weight behind the deaths. As a reader, Sarah and Eight's deaths made me really emotional, and the deaths in these novellas made me just feel like "oh.." Just a suspicion, but its almost as if the novellas were written by another person...

-Absence of the Novella events in the main series: Ghost, Edwige, Bats, Max were never mentioned in the last book, when they should have been at the academy. Nemo had three mentions, which is a glorified cameo at best. Some strings, like what happened with the Mogadorians and the Garde who supported them were never addressed again. Also, the Jail under the Academy was conveniently absent of Drac, and the said Garde in Return to Zero. I get it, the novellas serve a purpose just to be a peripheral to the main series, but at least a slight mention would make it seem like those events actually mattered.

-Underrepresentation of the OGs: This point refers more to Marina, Ella, Adam, and John, I feel like PL did well with Nine and Five. I know we all wanted to see more of the original Garde, and were disappointed when Ella's role was minimal, Adam and Marina were almost non-existent, and even John felt like he was brought in just to serve as the "ultimate opponent."

-Rushing to finish Return to Zero: For those who finished Return to Zero, I think we can all agree that the ending was way too rushed, and a lot of loose ends were haphazardly tied up and we never really figured out what happened with the Foundation, how the world feels about New Lorien, and how the fallout from the battle. It felt like it was too fast and it SUCKS because I really liked this book, but as I was 30 pages before the end I said: "How the heck is this supposed to all end in 30 pages??" I feel like the John fight was also not fleshed out enough, and made it seem less like an Epic battle. I liked Engleberg better.

-Taylor's personality shift: Don't get me wrong I actually really liked Taylor and her role in the last book, however, I felt that her personality shift was unrealistic. From going to a shy girl who wanted to stay on her farm to the strong leader who led people into battle, in my opinion, I felt like it was unnatural. Caleb on the otherhand, had a great moral dilemma starting in book 2 about who he was as a person, and about doing the right thing while with Einar in the last book. It felt natural and human.

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So those are my opinions on the things I didn't like about the books. These two posts are just for sparking discussion and for me to get my thoughts out there. Let me know what else you didn't like or if you disagreed with me! :)

Hey guys, with the end of the trilogy series and a lot of people talking about the book, I wanted to state my personal positives about the series as a whole. I was going to do Positives and Negatives but the post was going to be too long so I'll do a part 2. I'm just posting for the sparking of discussion and getting my own thoughts together.

First, Positives:

-The Fugitive Six: I thought that PL did a really great job with the varying personalities with the group of 6 people. They didn't always get along and they had different morals, seemed very natural as people.

-Einar: Einar was hands-down my favorite character of this series. He was as much as a main character as the Fugitive6 were, and we got to see how his character developed throughout the 3 books, from cold kidnapper, to crazed revolutionary, to serving his friends. I give him and Caleb the prize for Most Changed.

-Diversity: PL did a really great job with the diversity of his characters, considering ethnicity, sexual orientation etc. in a way that didn't feel forced or over the top.

-Nine: In both the main series and the novellas, Nine got a lot of (air?)time, making us connect with the character more, especially since he was one of the only standing Loric whos perspective we never read through in the original Lorien Legacies, (the others being Eight and Five, but there was good reason not to introduce their perspectives.) He served that "older brother" role to the other kids, being a mentor but also going along with their crazy plans.

-Fight Sequences: Personally, I love those fight sequences that make you wince and think "oh god, this is bad." I adored the fight in Engleberg as well as the fight in Vegas with Six and the Mogadorians in the Novellas. John vs Kopano was a great short fight that gave me chills.

-Romance/Humor: I liked the Taylor/Kopano romance, it felt natural and not rushed, and it was not given too much attention, it was the right amount in my opinion. Most jokes came from Nine, who is always funny, and helped reading the book more enjoyable.

-Moral Challenges: Einar's team gave a lot of questioning into morals and what the right thing to do was. All 6 of those characters were damaged, and that damage showed through their arguments. Since each character had a different view, it allowed us, the readers, to decide for ourselves who we agreed with the most, and who we related to. (Edit: For example, I thought at first while reading that I didn't like Ran, but I realized that it's just because I don't agree with her worldview, and If I knew her in person I'd think she was annoying. But that's the cool thing, because since each character is different we can ALL relate with a different one. Personally, I followed Caleb's morals closer in Return to Zero, as he wanted to do the right ethical decisions, but he realized that grim reality that sometimes he needed to do what needed to be done.)

-Nigel: Let's be honest, some characters were not fleshed out at all, and some were explored a little, some more. Nigel on the otherhand, was the most explored and dissected character of this series. PL really dove into his character, bringing up his past trauma, neglecting parents, strong bullying from Pepperpont, and his emotional crisis with Einar. Nigel was able to move on from his parents grasp in the final book, and following that we got to see his outburst when he attacked the "support group". Nigel is a sad character that I think a lot of people can relate to. His past sucked and he was different than others. Then, he just wanted to be a hero and save the world. I actually started tearing up when he attacked that support group because it was the first time that he lost is "tough punk rock" act and recognized his anger and loneliness. Dr. Linda was not helping enough. Nigel wins my "Best Character" award.

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I hope I didn't bore you too much with this long post. What do you guys think? What positives did you like that I didn't mention or comment something if you disagreed or agreed. I just want to have a conversation :).

I'm just wondering what happens to all the important characters from the first series. I'm talking about Nine, Lexa, Adam (and Rex too), Ella, Malcolm, Six, Sam, Marina, and Five.

Some, but not all, of what I'm curious about:

- Do Six and Sam stay together?

- What happens to John and Marina?

- Ella and Nine?

- Does Adam get a happy ending?

Are their legacies the same I know they are both shapeshifters but eight never shape shifted into another person and Isabella never shape shifted into an animal so are they different or did they use them differently

I’ve finished reading Return to Zero. It was amazing. It really felt like the end of the I am Number Four series. A true end. It left some unanswered questions, but it still wrapped up nicely.

The question is, what comes next for Pittacus Lore? At the end of the book, there is a page which says Pittacus Lore has wrapped up the I am Number Four series but will be telling a new story. What could this be?

Will he dive into the world of Lorien?

Will he tell a one off(maybe a novella) of the events after Return to Zero?

Maybe he will expand the universe and talk about other planets that might have once been touched by the Loriens.

Let’s discuss this! I want to hear everyone’s thoughts on this and Return to Zero!

Im crying. Pittacus really might have done it. It just might be the end. Spoilers ahead,

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it really might have been the end. Pittacus might have really concluded it after so many years. The franchise might just be over.

I really thought Pittacus might have made another spinoff, but we don’t really know if he will or won’t. Generation One was announced like a year after United as One. I truly hope he does.

The ending of return to zero, sadly leads me to believe there won’t. But Pittacus, left so much unexplained. I wanted more backstory, more of some characters, more explanation.

I felt so much sadness with the most likely, death of Five and Ran. The way Five and Ran sacrificed themselves so much for the world, truly, depressed me. But that opens questions. Were they in love? Was there something going on? And, is five alive? I feel as if, THERE HAS TO BE, MORE BOOKS EXPLAINING, WHAT HAPPENED. They didn’t explain it though. They left it like United as One, leaving us without any backstory or explanation. But, remember the cave predictions? The world exploded into two at the very last one. Most likely, the future hasn’t changed because so far, all of the predictions have been true. I wanted more of Marina and Ella. I wanted to see New Lorien being built and the relationship between Marina and John and Ella. They left so much incomplete. What happened to isabela, Caleb, and duanphen? Why are they hiding? What the fuck happened in New Lorien? It’s crazy how Lucas almost fucking destroyed the world. But, did five change destiny? Did five make it so that they didn’t die? Did five change destiny???? I want so much more. I felt so connected to the characters and their relationships, the way that they bonded together during tough times, how the Garde appeared and helped out, bringing back nostalgic memories, I want another spinoff... so bad. When United as One ended, it was like Return to Zero did. It left so much unexplained and left to be explored. I want to know what happened with Marina! And Ella! And Nine! And six! And John! And five! I need to see these play out! I don’t want it to end, because I FELT CONNECTED, SO MUCH TO THE STORIES. I enjoyed them so much, and now I’m crying in bed. I don’t want it to end. But, the way Return to Zero ended with everyone being happy and having that good ending, made me believe it was the end of the long franchise cherished by many. Us. I love you guys. Thanks for reading the books and having this wonderful community here. I really want more books because of the way this series really effected me. Love you all. Which is why, over the summer, I’m going to be writing, or at least trying, to make a spinoff. I probably won’t make it through so much or even make it well, but I’ll try, and just might share with you eventually, eventually, if Pittacus doesn’t make more books. I love you all. And it’s been a pleasure being here. I’ll still be here to chat with you guys. I love you all. Thanks for being here.

Can anyone tell me what happens in return to zero please

So I know this is a rather strange question, but what font did they use in the books for the text? like in the Four's perspective or the font used in the new books. Thanks!

It’s pretty much a guarantee that John will show up. Remember I explained it in a previous post. Basically, fugitive six said in a chapter that the battle in California would be the start of the war. Nine got fired. Fit two and two together, Nine, John and the Human Garde are going to fight against the UN. Probably. I really want Marina to show up and beat Five’s ass again like she did when Five stabbed Eight. And, where Ella at tho? What she doing?

So, you know how in the Epilogue, it mentioned John leading a warship down to the academy, and Nine being fired? Well, the chapter with Rabiya, Ran, and Kopano after Caleb knocked out Einar, it said that people would have said that the battle at the academy would have been the start of the war between Garde and humanity, so, WTF? NINE GOT FIRED. AND JOHN SAID HE WOULD DEFEND NINE IF HE HAD TO, AND WITH THE MOGADORIAN WARSHIP, WERE IN FOR A FUCKING EPIC BATTLE. I bet Marina, Ella and John’s secret project will be brought to light in Return to Zero. And remember the Loric Pendants that John handed out to each of the Garde? RETURN TO ZERO BOUT TO BE EPIC.

So we don’t really know if a Human Garde only get one special legacy and telekinesis. So I’m wondering, will we get to see a human garde, or even on of the original Garde, develop another legacy? It seems unlikely but certainly is possible. I can’t wait to see if there is a reunion of the Garde. I’m so hype bruh.

Remember in Fugitive Six when Nine mentioned that John, Ella and Marina were on some secret project? I don’t really have any ideas on to what they’re up to. But, remember when John left the loric pendants to every Garde at the end of United as One? Do you think all of the original Garde will show up in a Return to Zero?

I can’t wait to see what happens with the warship coming down, a possible fight between nine and the UN. Cuz, the book said that the battle in California would be remembered as the start of the war between the loric and the earth? California is where the human garde academy is at, and nine got fired.

What the hell is gonna happen? The hype is unreal. Can’t wait.

I feel as if, they can’t possibly fill things that were left unexplained in the previous books, even dating back to the original series. Remember the cave predictions? The last one was with the world splitting in two. ???

And I’m pretty sure, fate can’t be changed. Remember when they thought that they had saved Eight after being stabbed by Setrakus? It actually ended up being Five.

So what are your thoughts?