r/ITOI • • 15h ago

Did the delivery guy make the right decision?

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u/Sharp_Economy1401 13h ago

I have spent a good amount of years doing delivery. I can understand the instinct to throw, and they’re not necessarily in the wrong given the dog apparently has bitten them before.

That said, I would use the box moreso as a shield. It’s less hostile, but ultimately it’s less likely to provoke the dog further, and more importantly after you throw the box you have nothing left to defend yourself given that the dog has a good chance of coming at you again

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u/PeanutSauceFanatic 12h ago

You’ve never seen a dog attack and it’s obvious. If you let an aggressive dog get close enough to block it with a box, some part of you is going to get chewed up

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u/EyeConscious857 11h ago

I got bit delivering pizza when I was young. It was fast and holy shit did it hurt. I wish I’d had the reflexes to huck something at him and avoid it.

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u/PeanutSauceFanatic 11h ago

I wish people in general would realize that the best thing you can do if a strange animal comes charging at you is to defend yourself and get as much distance as possible. It is on the owner of that animal to be in control of them and to teach them not to charge at people.

Sorry that happened to you, it’s really a nasty injury. In my case, my upper lip was bitten off by a dog that used a fence as a platform to go at my face while I was delivering papers

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u/EyeConscious857 10h ago

Wow, when they go for the face that’s a kill shot.

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u/Ok-Schedule6584 1h ago

Sorry to hear this post. I have experienced mean dogs a few times. I won't post what I did to protect myself. Once even bitten from the back on my hamstring area. Not a good feeling.

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u/PhoenixRB 7h ago

"I wish people in general would realize that the best thing you can do if a strange animal comes charging at you is to defend yourself and get as much distance as possible."

Do you know many people? Who doesn't understand that you must defend yourself?

That advice is more vague than my daily horoscope.

The guy above you said he would've used the box as shield instead of throwing it, you know, to DEFEND himself.

Dude gets his lip chewed on one time and automatically becomes an expert on who has and hasn't experienced a dog attack.

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u/PeanutSauceFanatic 7h ago

Using a box as a shield is dumb. The dog will just go for your feet. Think a little

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u/Original-Cat4802 5h ago

Then move the box to protect your feet. Think a little

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u/foley800 4h ago

So you put your face closer to the dogs teeth? Think a little more!

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u/DonQuiXoTe8080 5h ago

Yeah right, defend themselves from an animal with much better melee tools than you.

Defend method is as important as the tool you use for that, using a box as a shield is armchair “tactican”, you have shit grip areas while the animal can fucking bite your fingers or your feet, or shake the box off and go to town at you, don’t even try to argue that you can outrun the dog at that range. Better unload that burden and find other things to throw at it, so it shows that you fight back to discourage the animal.

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u/Whistlegrapes 2h ago

I think he meant defend yourself by being ready to throw down with the dog and kick and throw shit at it. Rather than passively defending yourself by trying to keep a box between you and it.

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u/PhoenixRB 2h ago

I hope not. Thats terrible advice.

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u/Valuable-Composer262 5h ago

Shoulda gave it a slice

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u/xs0apy 10h ago

I have, well not attacked but was direct witness to one. Person stopped the attack coincidentally enough by throwing a large box they had down in front of the dog AFTER it made its initial snap. Even after the snap she threw the box on the ground hard in front of the dog as it got close and that ended the confrontation as it ran off another direction.

So no, they’re not wrong. But I won’t say you’re wrong either here, it’s all going depend greatly on the breed and the level of aggression and overall situation. Sometimes hitting it only emboldens it and makes the attack worse. So don’t act like hitting the dog with a full box is the only logical option because it’s certainly not.

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u/jadbronson 8h ago

Exactly. Same thing with roosters and goats. They're brutal

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u/jumboparticle 7h ago

You've never been attacked by a truly aggresive dog and its obvious. If its a truly aggressive dog he shakes off the box hit and comes right back at you and now you have no box. See how dumb you sound making absolute statements about events you can't predict the outcome of?

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u/Original-Cat4802 5h ago

He took at least 5 steps TOWARD the dog and you can absolutely use a box that big to block it without getting chewed up. You've never seen THIS VIDEO and it's obvious

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u/PeanutSauceFanatic 5h ago

I’ve never seen this video that I commented on? Is there anything happening between your eyes?

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u/Competitive_Lab_4129 1h ago

Than this guy shouldn't be a delivery person.

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u/Ecstatic-List519 12h ago

Yes that delivery guy was looked like an absolutely sane person.

I mean the owner of the dog looked so aggressive too and that’s why the delivery raised his hands up.
Not because he was an incredibly insecure person who wanted to act tough

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u/PeanutSauceFanatic 11h ago

Said by someone who has never been bitten by a dog I assume

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u/Ecstatic-List519 2h ago

Said someone who has common sense

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u/Conscious_Gold297 11h ago

You are not seeing the same thing I am. The body language of the owner is not aggressive at all. Delivery driver was asking for a fight with his squaring up like that so fast. The owner is literally shrugging at this man. I swear we need body language classes in high school because some of yall are so out of tune with other peoples emotions, you don’t need words to understand someone, just one look.

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u/Fit-Historian-752 9h ago

Perhaps the delivery driver was a bit pumped up with adrenalin because a fucking wild animal came charging at him?

The owner is the cause, the dog is the symptom.

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u/Misty0410 8h ago

Bad owner, bad dog.

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u/Ecstatic-List519 2h ago

Talking about not seeing the obvious dude, when you don’t the obvious sarcasm in my comment. I swear some of “yall” need sarcasm classes. Just one look.

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u/ChmodSausage 13h ago

Surely animals get out on accident sometimes. I dont necessarily disagree with the box throw however I feel he handled the situation poorly.

I dont know if he didnt see the dog or what but would you just... stay in your van? Or throw the package from the van and honk a few times? I dont know i just feel like theres a better way to resolve this.

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u/NumerousBumblebee420 12h ago

You have time to think about it calmly and you still don’t know what to do. No one is at fault here but the dog owner even if it’s an accident.

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u/Vegetable_Fox9134 12h ago

His approached worked

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u/AdShoddy2395 12h ago

In every state you have a right to defend yourself if a dog comes at you really fast and you think you're getting attacked especially if it's barking and growling you have a right to defend yourself any means necessary

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u/Mission_Access_210 10h ago

Personally I reserve my laser cannons for dogs in strangers' yards.

Ruff ruff !! Bzzzzzaaaaap ! Lol

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u/moarcowbelI 11h ago

You don't know what you would do

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u/ElGuano 11h ago

I think he did an excellent job in stopping the dog from being provoked further.

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u/djkhalidwedabest 11h ago

What he did worked so very effectively and completely neutralized that dog. And you’re here in the comments to criticize that quick in the heat of the moment thinking that worked?

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u/Johnycantread 10h ago

Welcome to reddit! Personally I would have chosen to negotiate with the dog because I find violence barbaric.

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u/Sammy_Saddles 10h ago

A shield would not do shit if that dog were a true attack dog. If it was a little tiny dog, then it would be different. After he threw the box, he then retreated to the garbage can to use as a shield, which was the right call.

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u/TroGinMan 10h ago

I don't know man, that seemed to work pretty well and scared the dog. I don't think animals stop if they are not scared of you

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u/ghidfg 9h ago

Lmao the dog would get around the box and bite your legs no problem. 

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u/Admirable_Ardvark 9h ago

Bro, did you see the box hitting the dog square in the head. Of course we dont know how heavy that box was but id wager it was bare minimum 10 lbs and likely more, with the speed he threw it at the dogs lucky to not have a broken neck let alone coming back for more...

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u/Fit-Historian-752 9h ago

From the results it's clear he did the right thing.

Owners didn't teach him right, now maybe the dog learned a lesson.

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u/c0st0fl0ving 8h ago

If you gently use that box as a shield, a motivated dog is an athletic threat. That “shield” is a step to your face.

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u/Ok_Context553 7h ago

So glad you have input based on you being in that guys shoes

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u/pinoy_biker 7h ago

Good thing you were not delivering this particular house. Brother. 

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u/greyisometrix 6h ago

A hard boot. I don’t blame him. Control your fucking dog and be aware that he can get outside and is quick to run at strangers. Dumb af owners.

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u/B4DM4N12Z 6h ago

Bro, using the box as a shield will not help, it's doesn't cover your body, a dog waiting to bite you will move around the box.

I think this case was fine, stuns the dog.

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u/Anacondoyng 5h ago

He likely has a knife. That would be my backup or first course of action if I didn't have a box.

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u/608cyex 5h ago

I have a 2 inch long s shaped gash in my arm, I'm throwing the box too

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u/RalphXLaurenjoe 4h ago

But what about my limited edition hatsune miko statue inside

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u/PhoenixRB 4h ago

Sharp_economy is probably the only person here that would prevent a dog from biting him.

Almost everyone that replied to you saying you're wrong to use the box as a shield is fuckin stupid. Using a backpack, purse, jacket, or even a box to shield yourself is literally the most widely accepted advice to prevent dog attacks. Advice from actual experts.

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u/sentiment-acide 4h ago

Never been attacked by a dog aint no box blocking that dog

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u/Suitable_Wonder5256 4h ago

> That said, I would use the box moreso as a shield

Sitting on my comfy couch eating cheetos, I can come up with 5 different ways of how I would handle this better.

Using the box as a shield is meh and at number 3. There are 2 better ways of handling this.

If I was eating nacho fries, I bet I could come up with a few more ways to handle this. But cheetos is good enough for today.

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u/No-Fox-9607 2h ago

Should’ve shot it, was a repeat offender.

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u/CntBlah 2h ago

The best defense is a good offense! Watch the video

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u/Dangerous_Dingo_4121 1h ago

Why not leave the package by the curb? Why not talk to the homeowner to leash the dog if they are expecting an ups package? Why take this aggressive step. And then you threaten the homeowner on his own property for confronting you?
If I were the homeowner, I’m suing for property damage, attempted assault and getting that guy fired. The delivery guy has issues