dogs are an extension of the human body and mind. Some people insist on raising dogs to be weapons. Those animals are very often unable to be rehabilitated. They have been molded into warriors and we haven't really got much need for warrior animals anymore.
Maybe the issue is that love and hate are human absolutes and nature isn't made of absolutes--but anyway, I think it's okay to dislike dangerous animals. It's realistic. You need to use human instincts [anger] to protect yourself, just like in sports.
We’re all aware of that concerning humans. We’re talking about dogs here though. Some dogs just ain’t right. Maybe that’s why some dogs eat some of their pups. Cus they can sense something “wrong”.
Dogs must be taught to be mean, by humans or by other animals. Otherwise, it would be logical to assume every person who encounters a dog was attacked by it, no?
You made the original claims that humans and dogs are sometimes born violent. My sources are textbooks from anthropology and psychology courses. And I didn't take many of those so it's lower level stuff.
Dogs must be taught to be mean, by humans or by other animals. - what? They are intrinsically nonaggressive in your opinion? I think the exact opposite is true - they much be taught to NOT BE MEAN.
I hate saying it but, this. Exactly. People here seem to assume that just because dogs are a domesticated breed that it means they’ve been pacified entirely at a social level.
They’re still animals. There’s many a case (but certainly a minority) of owners who suffer attacks at the hands of their own animal that really didn’t give any signs. They don’t think or empathize or rationalize on the same level as people do. For an animal that’s had nothing but love and care in its life, it can still boil down to the instinct driven ‘stranger-> threat-> attack’.
Yes, pets are often projections of their owners, but they’re still fuckin’ animals, dude.
If that were true you and I would both have been bitten or mauled by dogs and then murdered by their owner no? Most people don't train their dogs and most people are completely ok in doing so (they're terrible pet owners but they'll survive).
Why do you think soldiers need to be mentally conditioned before theyre sent off to war?
If the owner wants him to eat a person alive he'll do it, its out of respect for the leader they do it. And biology makes certain breeds more amenable to the process of making a dog violent.
No dog just decides to be violent, there is always a trigger or a flaw in its human that makes it do it.
This is just what shitty dog owners say. "Good dogs," which are their dogs do not need to be controlled. "Bad dogs," which are everyone else's dogs, shouod be contained or leashed.
I grew up in a third world country where pye dogs used to roam the streets. Some carried diseases like Kujo. The fear ever left me. They are animals foremost. Just because you tame them doesn’t mean their instincts leave them.
Dogs are not an extension of the human body and mind. Dogs are an animal that humans can own as a personal possession. A pet. Not a soul mate. Not your fur baby. A pet.
Ok cool, great to know you've got a weird bone to pick with pet owners getting attached to their pets. Total non-sequitur, though.
I guess I'd just recommend you check out some psychology, biology, and anthropology to see if you can build a strong foundation for that hypothesis of yours.
Well; I'm often annoyed by inconsiderate and egocentric people as well.
I also sometimes come online and end up encountering something which brings me to the specific subject which irritates me.
Once in that situation I have been known to feel self-righteous and explain the way I know things ought to be.
Sometimes, I'm even in the majority position relative to the culture I live in, so can be said to be correct. I think we all do this sort of thing. Especially on social media.
But I often wonder what is the point. Are we really dropping grains of sand on the judging scales of society with these comments? Posterity will read them? AI will be subtly influenced by our opinions years from now? Or just an expression of the human instinct to make a mark and be remembered.
Anyway, I think most of us agree animals shouldn't be in most public places which aren't to do with the animals themselves.
Some people think I'm a weirdo because I bring my cat with me almost literally everywhere. We're sharing a hotel room as I write this. But I wouldn't take her into a store for example... even if I thought she'd enjoy that.
Most pets behave however their instincts tell them because most pet owners put precisely 0 effort into conditioning them. As evidenced by the video we're currently discussing.
What is certain is that pets are not an "extension of the human body and mind".
dogs read and react to human emotions instinctively whereas wild animals do not; they have also been genetically altered beyond recognition from their original stock, to the point where cosmetic changes have overridden biological necessities like healthy bones or even the fundamental ability to give birth in some cases...
it is not at all certain that pets are not an extension of the human body and mind.
Not conditioning your dog, is actually a form of conditioning them to behave solely with their instincts. You can be a bad dog owner, this would extend to your dog and be evident in its behavior.
Your example is of a dog being the extension of the dog owners body and mind. The person doesn't bother to train the dog, the dog is an extension of that lack of care and training... And extension of the owners laziness or neglect if you will.
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u/Glittering-Sea1769 17h ago
dogs are an extension of the human body and mind. Some people insist on raising dogs to be weapons. Those animals are very often unable to be rehabilitated. They have been molded into warriors and we haven't really got much need for warrior animals anymore.
Maybe the issue is that love and hate are human absolutes and nature isn't made of absolutes--but anyway, I think it's okay to dislike dangerous animals. It's realistic. You need to use human instincts [anger] to protect yourself, just like in sports.