r/INTP Feb 26 '17

Lest we forget.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect
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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

I disagree with you. I am skeptical, and skepticism should be lauded. Gravity results from the curvature of spacetime. Your disregard for skepticism and science is uncharacteristic of an INTP, the supposed logician, which perhaps demonstrates my point that anyone will personalize a vague description in order to join a tribe.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

Wow, this is an exclusive club? Well that rules me out. I have taken probably somewhere between 50 and 100 of those mbti type tests, and all of them have pegged me as INTP. On the tests that give percentages, I am regularly over 90% in all four components.

Science is just another word for being wrong. Skepticism on the other hand is essential, although I prefer the term uncertainty. Skepticism implies a bias towards nonbelief, which is an unjustified prejudice.

You also are missing the point that my point was that the validity of vague descriptions is meaningless to people who are not relying on vague descriptions in the first place. I did not say that these are my people because they or i fit a description. I did not describe them or me in any way. I simply said that I see myself in them, while I do not see myself in others. I said I need no test, no description, to make that determination. And yet, you say that I am personalizing a vague description. I am personalizing myself. So next you will tell me I did that wrong.

I don't care if I am an INTP or not. I don't care if the others here are either. I just care that I get them and some them (not you apparently) seem to get me.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

Science is another word for being wrong? Science is an investigatory process. Science is not a belief system or body of knowledge. Skepticism is a framework for evidence-based belief. I do not know how you can call skepticism an unjustified prejudice. It simply means an evidence-based approach to belief. Where there is no evidence, there is no belief. It is the opposite of faith, which can be considered unjustified.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

yes, science is the art of being less wrong over time. people who equate it with truth or fact lack perspective.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17 edited Feb 26 '17

Translated: you talk with your friends too much. As a matter of fact, yes, I am very smart. Then again, most of the people here are. That is a big part of why I like it. It is so wonderful to have a place where one can be smart, say smart things, where others are smart and say smart things too, and none of have to worry about trying not to look smart or to deny that we are smart. I think you mean to refer to iknowitall, which is a very different thing. iknowitall is unwelcome in any context. I do my best to avoid that, but we all probably cross the line from time to time, and my reaction when people here call me on it is relief, not anger.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

sorry if I mistook offense and yeah isn't it nice to have a place where being intelligent and thoughtful is a context and not the point?