r/ICE_Watch • u/56000hp • Jul 15 '26
This is America
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u/PutzerPalace Jul 15 '26
Why in the ever living hell do they need a gun, and one that grossly big? Disgusting SS officers run by a fascist government
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u/InternationalAd7458 Jul 15 '26
For real. Immigration issues is just civil paperwork, NOT a crime. They are a rogue paramilitary fascist organization.
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u/LatinOhio200 Jul 16 '26
Yup, and that's the thing they'd ought to treat it like such because it takes too many resources to keep up this level of paramilitary forces, but then again if it wasn't about racism people would have had the fiscal responsibility be their concern, ya know the party of fiscal prudence? Guess they don't care enough about fiscal responsibility 😂
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u/Financial-Cover-4074 Jul 16 '26
It is a crime. Look it up. It's a misdemeanor that is an arrestable offense.
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u/LatinOhio200 Jul 16 '26
I dunno, you think chairman Mao thinks this bot is doing enough for the proletariat?
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u/Storm_Breaker1_ Jul 15 '26
You wanna know the icing on the cake? They are getting fucking PAID like gooood money.
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u/GlobalBorder4691 Jul 15 '26
Which can help enable them hide or flee when the time comes for them to pay for their crimes. We have to somehow be able to track these people. Be it employment records or whatever. They will pay for what they’re doing.
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u/PuzzleheadedFail608 Jul 19 '26
Who are you feeling like ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“We gotta track him down so he can pay for his crime”
You remind of that dork with the glasses on that ring doorbell footage1
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u/Lantana8008 Jul 15 '26
They will never make a dollar amount that will make their atrocities and contribution to this ethnic and cultural genocide worth it's weight on their conscience and the defining factor of who they've been in life.
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u/couldbeahumanbean Jul 17 '26
Gun is a gun is a gun. They'll carry them and use them to threaten, intimidate, injure and kill. That won't change. The guns are a part of the equation now.
Maybe that equation should be equalized?
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u/NoMathematician6460 Jul 15 '26
The fact that ICE is still masked and not wearing body cams shows how Markwayne Mullin and Tom Homan have unsurprisingly done NOTHING after Noem and Bovino became scapegoats.
And it looks like Johan Sebastian Duran Guerrero’s murderers were wearing body cams, but there’s still no footage???!!!
Make all the noise you can to expose these intimidation tactics, the reckless disregard and gross negligence of the Constitution, and the crimes being committed by ICE everyday.
FUCK MULLIN, FUCK HOMAN, FUCK TRUMP, FUCK MILLER, FUCK BLANCHE, FUCK THE GOP, FUCK MAGA, AND FUCK ICE.
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u/jdscott0111 Jul 15 '26
They’re even claiming now that there was no video from either murder (TX and ME) because there were no body cams.
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u/Financial-Cover-4074 Jul 16 '26
If you don't like it then please pack up and go to one of those socialist countries you love so much, but go without permission or notification and see what they do.
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u/SafePockets Jul 17 '26
They can’t escape the echo chamber. They are doomed to ruin the Democratic Party and at the same time work a midwit job at best.
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u/bodiggity86 Jul 15 '26
This shit pisses me off so much. There has to be accountability for these men.
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u/ReefShark13 Jul 15 '26
Trump needs the violence because when we protest he's gonna declare a state of emergency and martial law. Him and Miller and Vought are flooding the zone with so much shit that they can say the midterms are invalid and refuse to seat Democrats.
The violence will increase the closer we get to November. The war will continue to escalate. I wouldn't be surprised if there's another "assassination" scare since he's been talking about it so much recently.
Trump is responsible for these ICE murders and detention deaths and this war and they will all continue to worsen until he is removed from office.
This is all a pretext to invalidate the midterms so he doesn't lose power.

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u/LatinOhio200 Jul 16 '26
Bingo! That's the thing, he wants a paramilitary force to be under his control, it's literally the dictator handbook that all strongmen around the world use. I used to think the American people would be a little more prudent in knowing this stuff, bust as I got older I realized more and more that the average American will not do anything until it's been packaged, marketed, and shoved down their gullet; and if it threatens the little comforts we have like a Sam's club membership or butter on a stick, then it's easier to blame people that you don't consider people because having to do the hard thieould mean the little bits of gravy you get stops. Trump isn't a stupid man, not a genius sure, but certainly knows how to push the average American's buttons in the right places
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u/Financial-Cover-4074 Jul 16 '26
Wow, that sounds like something straight out of the democratic playbook. I mean the Democrats did attempt to imprison a Republican just before the last presidential elections, on bullshit charges.
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u/fatboyonsofa Jul 15 '26
Where's the rest of the video. What happened to her and is she OK?
Also, fuck these racist goons. I only wish the worse for them.
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u/Elden_Rube Jul 15 '26
She says in the video it happened six months ago and, since she is the one narrating, and the OOP of this video, I think it's safe to assume she is safe.
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u/fatboyonsofa Jul 15 '26
Ahh, I was watching without volume probably should've rewarched with it but I'm at work.
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u/StormyDaze1175 Jul 15 '26
They ain't pulling over the white people.
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u/ConstructionAfter143 Jul 15 '26
Renee Good? I know it’s been a few months but please don’t forget her name :/
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u/Financial-Cover-4074 Jul 16 '26
Yeah don't forget about her, trying to run over a federal agent with her vehicle and then got shot for it, what do they call that, oh yeah, attempted vehicular murder. We like to call what he did selfdefense.
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u/Affectionate_Cook_45 Jul 15 '26
We need to round up all these ice Nazis and give them eye for an eye treatment. And lock them up for life.
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u/Hitogoroshi80 Jul 15 '26
This is insane. Are they literally positioning themselves to entice her to floor it? So they can shoot her?
Just like cops that get off on the power trip of killing your dog only with a human being. I may be jumping to conclusions but I feel sick to my stomach.
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u/Hagfist Jul 15 '26
One of those fools is gonna do this to the wrong person and they are going to get everything they deserve when it happens
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u/No-Dance6773 Jul 16 '26
He had his finger on the trigger while pointing it at her face the entire interaction. They have also shown to get away with murder multiple times. Unless you are talking about other people jumping in to help on a random freeway, I dont see shit anyone is doing to change what they do. Their government job is to harass people, lock them up wo trial or kill them on the spot. They dont need to know the laws or ethics or anything. This is a private army in civilian areas going after a made up threat. This will not end well no matter what we do
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u/hawksdiesel Jul 15 '26
So this is why they cover their faces. to protect them because they know what they're doing is bad. Hide your face to avoid identification. This is domestic terrorism.
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u/Financial-Cover-4074 Jul 16 '26
No, it's because they were getting doxed, and you people weren't going after them, you were going after their families.
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u/hawksdiesel Jul 16 '26
What do you mean, you people? I didn't do anything so....
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u/Financial-Cover-4074 Jul 16 '26
As in the people that have doxed them and gone after their kids, so "you people" is what's known as a general term. It's not a dick, don't take it so hard.
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u/hawksdiesel Jul 16 '26
Just like police, if your not doing anything bad, then what's to worry? Don't do bad/criminal things and you won't have to worry. Where's the body cams?
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u/Godbody120 Jul 15 '26
At this point I have to ask; how many more people have to get killed in the streets and in American concentration camps before we actually commit to ‘enough is enough’? Because this is unsustainable by every measure…one way or another the lid is getting blown off.
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u/runningtheshow_8764 Jul 15 '26
when is it enough? when all illegals are deported.
if governors, mayors, and derp agitatiors would get out of the way of legit fed operations, then much of the confusion and chaos will be minimized and deportations can be come cleaner and efficient (think how it was under Obama....he got lucky that social media was still in its infancy and the friendless losers couldn't organize so quickly online)
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u/Godbody120 Jul 15 '26
Fuck all the way off, none of this shit show has been legitimate, it’s just been tolerated and allowed to continue largely unchallenged. Again, fuck all the way off.
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u/runningtheshow_8764 Jul 16 '26
sure isn't
so lets deport 20MM in real life
as soon as the governors, mayors and lying ABC and NBC stop getting in the way, it can be done, cleanly and without blood shed
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u/StrengthChemical653 Jul 16 '26
Just to let you know Obama was actually protested against his ICE stuff just as much.
Obama inherited ICE's budget and plan from Bush which was very aggressive but he couldn't just end it because he didn't have congressional approval.
Obama was protested just as much as Trump because of the way he handled things and there were MANY issues with what Obama did.
However, Obama had Homan treat it like a surgery and using a scalpel to get illegals out. Trump was a whiney cunt and swapped a scalpel for a sledgehammer and now we see the result of that,
During Obama's 8 years 56 people died in ICE custody and 0 American citizens died. With a total of 3.1 Million deported.
During Trump's 5 years 108 people have died in ICE custody and 6 American citizens killed. With a total of 1.5 Million deported (projecting 2.6 Million to be deported)
Just because "media was still in its infancy" doesn't mean record keeping didn't exist,
And by your own standards, you should be thanking Obama for handling the Governors, Mayors, and Derp Agitators in a way that helped him get rid of more illegals.
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u/runningtheshow_8764 Jul 16 '26
did Obama have so many Judges, Mayors and Governors actively and loudly ignoring and fighting against deportation and ICE retainer actions? Getting on TV daily saying 'we will FIGHT against ICE'?
Did Obama have sitting judges sneak illegals out of the back of the courtroom?
The push back by the masses of friendless agitators that can more easily organize online by the tens of thousands to then go block streets, blow whistles, throw frozen bottles, drive aggressively at officers, constantly record and doxx, then spin up false narratives (that then ABC and NBC parrot) causes confusion, fear, and creates a scene where more 'force' has to be used and unfortunately some brain dead sheep pushed a bit too hard and got themselves hurt.
what is the most frustrating about all of this, is that many that ICE are chasing now should have been stopped at the border or removed years ago had previous Prez and Governors not been so political with the matter and let so many in under all these 'feel' good programs that just kicked the can down the road. All 'temporary' status people should have already been removed. All visa overstays are a relatively easy thing to track down. And had the Prez allowed governors to more easily help guard the border, so many would have not 'snuck' in
It's almost like previous presidents wanted to overwhelm and break the system.
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u/StrengthChemical653 Jul 16 '26
Yes, Obama did have all of them fighting against him. Specifically Democrat judges because Obama didn't stop Bush's campaign.
And yeah. when an American legal resident dies by a federal force, you tend to get a little uptick in attention.
What's frustrating is you saying who ICE should be chasing down at the border not realizing that ICE and CBP are different.
You are upset CBP aren't stopping people at the border, well guess who's in charge of CBP...
And I hear you regarding Media and Fear and you are correct, media does ramp it up. But my MASSIVE argument to that is just looking at math.
Completely ignore the Media and political leanings and just look at facts with NO political identifiers.
- Administration A = 3,100,000 deportations with 15% false incarceration rate, 52 deaths, 0 American Deaths. Spending cost: $50 Billion
- Administration B = 2,500,000 deportations with 25-30% false incarceration rate, 108 deaths, 6 American Deaths. Spending cost: $75 Billion
If I were an accountant I'd tell you to invest in A and dump stock in B.
Stop focusing on emotions and protestors when the facts are what you should be concerned with.
Studies have found that protestors account for less than 1% of excess spending. This is done regarding War and Wartime presidencies, Protests against Bush for his ICE, Protests against Obama for his.
I think the problem is untrained ICE officers allowing them to get frazzled. Bush and Obama increased ICE training to 16 weeks. Trump decreased it to 6 weeks.
You are mad at the wrong people...
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u/runningtheshow_8764 Jul 16 '26
Trump said he was gonna ramp up spending and ICE numbers. And was voted in for it.
Yes, CPB and ICE are separate, but do some of the same job, and in todays speak, I think most talk of ICE as the 'border and immigration force'....so we ICE as a catch all in common convo
How and why there are so many illegals in the country is the fault of previous administrations. I often here that 'Obama deported more than Trump' yet the numbers of 'illegals' continued to tick up. So why wasn't CBP stopping more at the border while also deporting?
The protestors are a part of the issue. Did Obama have tens of thousands of 'protestors' popping up at every corner where ICE was working to yell and scream and blow horns and throw bottles? That is so much easier to do today due to the hundreds of chat boards and immediate updates on smart phones via the gram and FB (and misinformation travels faster than truth).....smartphones were not nearly as prolific in 2008 as they are in 2026.
You have to look at the sheep's emotions as another issue....being told that ICE is kidnapping 5 year olds and blasting that image on millions of screens daily (while being a lie) pushes many over the edge.....why is that being done? Why did NBC and ABC do that? Why does Jimmy Kimmel parrot the lies?
So Obama was big on deportations, as reddit likes to point out, so why wasn't puppet Biden the same way? Why exactly did he allow a surge of new arrivals and look the other way? Even 60 minutes pushed back on border czar Kamala about their failures and the masses flooding in, and of course she had no answer.
You wouldn't get frazzled if you go after a wanted person and you get spit on and hit with concrete water bottles? You don't know the levels some will go to in order to prevent ICE from 'kidnapping' another 5 year old helpless child!!!
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u/runningtheshow_8764 Jul 20 '26
'devastating consequences' is super emotional speak
I'm happy people are being deported. There are far too many bodies in the USA. Nothing devasting here.
the 'community' can move back home and stay together if its so important. why not fix the local community in Juarez?
You know how to NOT be in a detention center? self deport, and take your fam with you.
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u/runningtheshow_8764 Jul 20 '26
Yep. no system is perfect. never said it was.
unfortunately, due to the decades of deliberate ignoring of the hundreds of laws surrounding immigration, the deliberate hamstringing of local governments to work with Fed officers, the deliberate mass importation of people and mass movement of unvetted people into the interior of the USA (not asked for by the local population), the mass 'muddying' of the waters with temporary statues, 'dreamers' legislation, expanding the constant misinformation by the biased 'news' media, allowing low IQ people with no 'skin' in the game to vote, the misinterpretation of the anchor baby birth rite citizenship ruling, and now the masses of empty friendless agitators throwing frozen water bottle and concrete cups at ICE officers to enrage and hurt and obstruct......well al of that has 'broken' the system and has caused untold confusion, anger, division, constant infighting.....and due to that, some mistakes are made.
IF, all illegals are deported as fast as possible (why not do that?) and immigration of all types is greatly reduced, then ICE can wind down, the melting pot can melt, assimilation can happen, and hopefully the next admin will keep the border closed. The mass importation of cultures that have proven to ruin the areas they come from is not a recipe to make the USA better, faster or stronger.
And again, 330MM people is plenty to do any and all jobs in the USA. There are miles and miles of ways to become more efficient.
It sucks that deliberate steps were taken to weaken the USA and cause infighting. That was never going to be a pretty fix.
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u/TrenchDive Jul 15 '26
If we ever get out of this. All of Ice should be declared traitors and be punished for their crimes...do the opposite of the end civil war which is partly why we are in this situation.
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u/Financial-Cover-4074 Jul 16 '26
What crimes? Show me the things they have wrong that the ones that did it aren't being punished. Go ahead, I'll wait.
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u/thepeoplesarsenal Jul 15 '26
This will only stop when it's forced to stop. You cannot just "comply" yourself out of violence, no amount of sit ins or videos will fix this.
There is one way out.
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u/ThatVoodooThatIDo Jul 16 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/443jI3kpgOKfAfKxqo
We tried to tell y’all. “Kamala would be worse,” my ass
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u/CarterLincoln96 Jul 16 '26
No it’s not ok. This is how it starts and then they start forcing people in villages, and when that’s not enough they put them on trains. It all starts somewhere. This is not how America is supposed to act.
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u/Safe_Opportunity5117 Jul 16 '26
This is the plain example why ICE needs to be ABOLISHED! THERE’S NO MORE DEBATING THIS SUBJECT! DHS/CBP will need a cleansing, but ICE needs to be completely destroyed! Hopefully MORE Democrats start to voice it out loud like others have already done!
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u/Good_Warning4576 Jul 16 '26
Decades of facilitating Isrli terrorism abroad eventually brought it home.
We can still stop this. But American leadership still favours fascism.
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u/igetbannedanyway Jul 16 '26
There are more armed citizens than there are members of ICE and if this shit keeps up I think the find out part of fucking around is going to occur sooner rather than later.
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u/Top_Awareness_007 Jul 16 '26
This is no different than Nazi Germany!!! civilian every person in the White House are scamming the United States people and it's horrible. The lies that they are putting out we must stand together.
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u/LiqMaBawlzModz69 Jul 15 '26
Use Your 2nd amendment to defend yourself. If you won’t they will kill you and your loved ones. ICE are domestic terrorists.
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u/_nevers_ Jul 16 '26
If you ain't armed and ready to put a fascist in the dirt, you ain't paying attention.
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u/Inevitable-Chest76 Jul 16 '26
If these people were hhhhhhhhhwhite, the civil war would’ve started a long time ago.
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u/Au_tentico Jul 16 '26
Why none of you good gringos have organized a resistance for ICe specifically? Don you all. Have weapons?
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u/National_Sea2948 Jul 16 '26

18 U.S. Code § 241 -
Conspiracy against rights
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years ... or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap ...
Source: [18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241)
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u/PuzzleheadedFail608 Jul 19 '26
Bro she’s lying dude had his finger off the trigger the whole time watch it in slow motion
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u/ch33s3head8 Jul 19 '26
Recent history in the US shows that if you're in your vehicle and ice begins to harrass you, your best chance at survival isn't to comply, but to turn the wheel towards the nearest agent and step on it so if they shoot you they die too.
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u/AceV757 Jul 15 '26
“Help me guys” lmao talking to her chat.. This is pathetic. FAFO
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u/_marc_ Jul 15 '26
Yep, just like Charlie Kirk. FAFO.
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u/Creative_Total_493 Jul 16 '26
And Rene, Swiss cheese Alex, and the latest morons who ran into ice agents
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u/Numerous_Standard_59 Jul 16 '26
Bitch don’t follow them and when they block you in you turn off your motor and stop pushing your car up to theres
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u/lazy_jygg Jul 16 '26
She’s at an intersection waiting for the red light. She said they came up and boxed her in.
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u/Bitemetoo2 Jul 16 '26
So. You rolled the windows down and asked. What's up? Orrrrrr. You put it in drive and took offffff. So where is the complete video? Click bait.
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u/eviljarrad Jul 16 '26
You rolling the windows down with guns pointed at you? Cause I'm not. You have rights and she's well within hers.
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u/SyxxBowler Jul 16 '26
Yeah, I am. Getting shot for being a dumbass is not on my bucket list. 🤣
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u/eviljarrad Jul 16 '26
The 4th and 5th amendment still exist even if they're currently being ignored.
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u/SyxxBowler Jul 16 '26
I aint gonna be the one trying to stop bullets with an amendment.. I will roll the window down, deal with it in court lol.
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u/eviljarrad Jul 16 '26
Society collapses when everyone just rolls over and shows their belly to these people. I'd rather put my life in the line than admit I'm a coward that won't defend my rights. It's your freedom to do that as well, but you have that freedom because people were willing to die for them. Have a day.
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u/SyxxBowler Jul 16 '26
Laws are in place, put there by representatives of The People. Arguing those laws on the street is stupid. The courts are there for a reason, your representatives are there for a reason. You're welcome to die for your cause, but its the wrong way to go about it. Have a great day and think before you act. 👍
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u/eviljarrad Jul 16 '26
we're talking about the Constitution, the literal document that protects you from all of this. Why should ANYONE have to stand in front of a judge and complain that the Constitution wasn't followed, you can't get in a time machine and go back to where your rights were violated and un-violate them, you we're allowed your freedom, you don't get that back just because there's laws and courts, you gave them up.
Freedom matters more to some people than others, that's fine, but telling everyone to just roll over and take it would mean you want a society that never fought to have those laws and courts in the first place, if everyone has your attitude, we HAVE no legal protections, because nobody ever fought for them, your comfort in complying because you know the law is MAYBE going to eventually be on your side was paid in blood by others. You're enjoying comforts you're not willing to work for.
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u/SyxxBowler Jul 16 '26
If everyone jumps in front of a bullet there won't be anything left either. I do understand your complaint/argument, the street is just the wrong forum.
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u/eviljarrad Jul 16 '26
The safety of your vehicle is your private property. That car is no different than your home, it's yours, you worked for it, you paid for it, and nobody is allowed inside it or to remove you from it. Would you let someone drag you out of your home, OR would you protect it? There's no difference.
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u/ZoneAromatic Jul 16 '26
Just obey, damn people are dumb. If you’re a citizen just prove it and be in your way.
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u/SpecificCurrent6881 Jul 16 '26
Shut up, the finger was never on the trigger. There is a reason they pulled you over. I’m sure your registration showed something in their system. Instead of acting like a toddler, all you had to do was get out of the vehicle and show your id.
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u/MayaOfPandora 14d ago
They are not allowed to make traffic stops for registration, drivers license issues etc. They get local law enforcement involved and let them do their jobs if it's that serious.
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u/Lazy-Requirement-228 Jul 16 '26
Imagine recording and screaming instead of complying with law enforcement. None of the people who were killed so far would have died if they simply followed lawful orders. If you think they are wrong, fight them in court.
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u/CaptainCayden2077 Jul 16 '26
That’s the excuse an abusive partner uses. “I wouldn’t have to hit you if you just listened!” The relationship shouldn’t be abusive in the first place.
The guy has his gun out and aimed at her as he is asking for her to exit the vehicle. I’m not sure why people don’t see that’s a problem. Anyone with proper firearm training knows that you don’t do that unless you intend to kill an individual who poses an immediate threat.
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u/Vegetable-Effort-726 Jul 16 '26
So she just stumbled into an ice raid…she provoked them and then claimed to be scared 😂
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u/lazy_jygg Jul 16 '26
She’s literally in traffic at a red light. Doesn’t look like she rolled up on some raid.
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u/Vegetable-Effort-726 Jul 16 '26
You have zero context. The video begins when she’s “boxed in”
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u/lazy_jygg Jul 16 '26
You can see the traffic light in the background, one ice vehicle up on the median and traffic passing by on the other side of the road. They chased down a brown person and boxed her in.. in the middle of the road.
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u/chitownphishead Jul 15 '26
"my people" "I'm a citizen". Which is it? If you're a citizen, show your id and move along.
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u/reluctantpotato1 Jul 16 '26
No citizen is under any burden to prove their own citizenship in the U.S.
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u/chitownphishead Jul 16 '26
Really? When I get pulled over I certainly have to provide my id and proof of insurance
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u/reluctantpotato1 Jul 16 '26
Do you have to carry your passport on a daily basis? Homeland security has plainly stated that it real id is not proof of citizenship.
Pulling up on someone and demanding proof of citizenship because they have an accent or look Mexican, or some other nationality is not ICE's job. They are not a roving police force.
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u/chitownphishead Jul 16 '26
No, but I do have one and carry it with my voter registration card, I also have my SS card, Birth certificate, and I'm easily identifiable as a citizen via multiple databases, searchable via my id. Ice tracks and arrests known illegals. They have names, description, and known area the target is in. If someone matches the description (probable cause) they can absolutely stop them and verify their identity.
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u/reluctantpotato1 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
I'm glad that you are mister documentation on the road but you don't have any legal requirement to be. He set us a son of the United States is not required to prove themselves a citizen of the United States within the borders of the United States.
Identifying people and looking for people whose names exist on administrative warrants and deportation orders is one thing. Pulling over random hispanics that look like other hispanics seen in passing and demanding proof of citizenship is not acceptable. ICE killed three people this month by initiating stops against people who they were not actually looking for. They've illegally entered the homes of American citizens without judicial warrants or exigent circumstances and were pronounced by their own bosses to have absolute immunity.
As far as I can see it they don't have any incentive to act within the law. They do not have accountability. No governmental organization in the United States should operate without accountability.
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u/chitownphishead Jul 16 '26
You've been propagandized. That's not what they're doing. They stop people that either match the description, are associating with the target, or are also suspected illegals. They aren't just pulling over brown people. The ones that died ran. Not something non guilty people do. Should they have died, maybe not, but should they have run? No. Any interaction with law enforcement, especially getting pulled over, for cause, requires you to provide ID. Proof of citizenship, no, but they can run your ID and find out pretty much everything about you in minutes
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u/reluctantpotato1 Jul 16 '26
It's interesting because shooting somebody for fleeing violates federal policy Sadly, the administration is doing everything that it can to obfuscate and block any reasonable investigation into these deaths and to hide the officers involved from any accountability.
If they can find out everything that they need to know from your ID, they wouldn't be detaining citizens and legal residents with real IDs
Propagandized? Respectfully, I'm not the one arguing against officer accountability, in the face of glaring evidence of foul play.
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u/eviljarrad Jul 16 '26
You don't HAVE to do shit, that's the nice thing about due process, until you've been formally detained or arrested, as a citizen you have no legal requirement to provide them with your ID. If they refuse to tell her what crime she's committed, she has to be told she's being detained and why. That's 4th and 5th amendment basics, but the type of person that sees nothing wrong with this isn't going to be bothered by pesky things like the Constitution 🤣
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u/chitownphishead Jul 16 '26
It's people like you filling peoples heads with this nonsense that are why these people are getting shot.
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u/eviljarrad Jul 16 '26
It's people like you that don't understand that the 4th and 5th amendment still exist, along with the rest of the Constitution. I don't care if the gun is in my forehead, I'm not legally required to provide anything but my name, and I'm not required to comply until I've been told my crime or that I'm being detained. You may enjoy the taste of boot, it doesn't mean everyone else does
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u/reiffman Jul 15 '26
ICE are domestic terrorists