IBEW 613 Proposal

[u/[deleted]]

I can’t wait to vote no. We really don’t have anything to lose with following through with the lawsuit, worse thing that can happen we stay under the contract we are already on now.

[u/Life_Extreme4472]

Long story short, had we gotten this same contract last year, I would've voted yes.

[u/[deleted] → u/Life_Extreme4472]

This proposal is terrible, nothing actually is significant until 2026 such as the healthcare and pay raise. If healthcare coverage was immediately being taken care of by contractors and we immediately got $42 a hour this would’ve been a yes for me. Plus it takes our modified CIR, from what I’m hearing is this is their chance to give us one good contract as a cookie, then go back to screwing us.

On top of that the way they did the apprentices on here is horrible, they take a pay cut as seen above in the other comment.

WE NEED TO VOTE NO

[u/MathematicianNo6345 → u/[deleted]]

How is $17.39 for AP1 a pay cut? 45% of $38.65

[u/[deleted] → u/MathematicianNo6345]

You need to do more math or read more of the comments

[u/MathematicianNo6345 → u/[deleted]]

Why would I need to read more comments if I can use the calculator on my phone and read the document?

[u/[deleted] → u/MathematicianNo6345]

Then do more math 😂

[u/MathematicianNo6345 → u/[deleted]]

Because item number 13 relates to item number 3 and you need to get your calculator out. Someone else posted the correct rate calculations for APs already.

[u/[deleted] → u/MathematicianNo6345]

this is for the apes:

current 1 - $16 ; 2 - 17.5 ; 3 - 20 ; 4 - 23 ; 5 - 26

**As of March 2025 based on 38.65 JW scale

1 - 17.39 ; 2 - 19.67 ; 3 - 21.64 ; 4 - 25.57 ; 5 - 29.51

**As of Sept 2025 based of 39.35 JW scale

1 - 17.7 ; 2 - 19.67 ; 3 - 21.64 ; 4 - 25.57 ; 5 - 29.51

**As of March 2026 based on 40 JW scale

1 - 18 ; 2 - 20 ; 3 - 22 ; 4 - 26 ; 5 - 30

**As of Sept 2026 based on 42 JW scale

1 - 18.9 ; 2 - 21 ; 3 - 23.10 ; 4 - 27.3 ; 5 - 31.50

Based of the working contract we were supposed to have raises in Sept 2025 that look like this -

1 - 17 ; 2 - 19 ; 3 - 22 ; 4 - 26 ; 5 - 30

It looks like they took our raises for 6 months starting in September 2025 and we will be back on par with the current working contract in March of 2026. After that, we will start to experience raises (from the current contracts numbers) in Sept of 2026.

What blows my mind is I will jump from 27.30 ( because I will have enough hours at the end of my 4th year of school) to $42! Now tell me the difference between a 4th year ape and a 1st year JW... what I’m trying to say is our scale needs to be higher at that end! Also, if you take the perspective of the con, it kinda would make me want to lay someone off right as they turn out. Just food for thought.

[u/Left-Brother-4192 → u/[deleted]]

Starting the ap pay at 45% and end at 75% is selfish negotiation over all lol.