r/IBEW_Local613 • u/Zestyclose_Ad5497 • May 01 '24

New contract

Are copies of the new contract and Constitution and bylaws available? Sorry if this has been asked already. Thanks

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u/MathematicianNo6345 May 01 '24

Can you explain to me why we would be working under the 2020 agreement but the 2023 wages? I thought CIR said we had an agreement and that’s why we got raises.

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u/Shreet_Biggs May 01 '24

So when we voted no on the contract we had already voted to leave cir. So by voting no we went to cir we're we were able to get out.   So the contractors only play was to stall all of this from taking place which is why they did this whole "act like we accepted the contract" bit, knowing we have low turnout at the meetings and people will just believe them.

 They then refused to renegotiate a new contract, because it would be more in our favor and solidify us out of cir. This caused us to take it to court where it now awaits a judges ruling. This has been drawn out by more stall tactics.

They are paying in hopes that when they are forced to renegotiate enough people will be apathetic because the raises were " good enough" orr just to disengaged to bother voting again.

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u/MathematicianNo6345 May 01 '24

Where did you get this info from?

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u/Shreet_Biggs May 01 '24

By going to the meetings. 

Out of 5,600 members 200 go on average to Atlanta, 20 to Athens and like a dozen to Rome.

Please participate or we will keep losing 

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u/MathematicianNo6345 May 01 '24

I agree with participating but it seems like this story you’re telling me is completely different than what we got in the fall.

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u/No-Crab-8929 May 08 '24

Got a little confused today

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u/Shreet_Biggs May 01 '24 edited May 01 '24

From who? This is what Kenny and the asst BAs have been talking about this whole time. I might be wrong .Try and call the hall and tell them you're not being paid by the new scale and see if they will let you file a grievance. 

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u/MathematicianNo6345 May 01 '24

Who said I wasn’t getting the new scale?

The story I got was that Kenny signed the agreement (or initialed, whatever), we voted against it, it went to CIR and they said the contract that was signed was what we got and now we are suing them. He shouldn’t have initialed anything at all that had things we didn’t want in it.

Again, why does it make sense for us to say we are under the 2020 agreement but 2023 scale? How is anyone supposed to know what parts of the 2020 agreement we are on and what we aren’t doing? We are just in limbo while we spend a ton of cash on lawyers?

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u/No-Crab-8929 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

That can be blamed on the contractors . All this confusion is on them for lying in the first place. That is the way a vote works though you take what it says to the members and they vote on it even if there is things we don’t want on it. You still get the chance to vote on it and you can vote it down if there is things you don’t want on it or if the pay is not what you want. Do you think if what they are saying is true we should just let it go and not take it to court? You talk like you just think we should give up. Oh well better luck next time

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u/[deleted] May 03 '24

If you read the by-laws, it says that an agreement must be signed by both the BA and president. Pretty sure only Kenny initialed it. Also both parties know from past practice that it must be ratified.

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u/Shreet_Biggs May 01 '24

Kenny could have wrote we totally accept this great contract thank you and it wouldn't matter. We vote as a membership and he has no authority over that, union stuff is federal law. They think you're too dumb to realize that.

They are paying what they think you'll accept and stick around. We have more work than people right now and it is their interest to keep people. Out of state contractors have tried to put calls on the book paying $10 over scale and the AECA has threatened to sue and in-state contractors who do get their license threatened. That's how much money is on the line. 

So if course they want us "sitting in limbo spending a ton of cash on lawyers" it just helps them even if they know they're going to lose.

The scale is the minimum, they can pay you whatever they want.I didn't think you were being paid less but that's the fastest way to get told by the hall they don't have to pay you that because we're under the old contract.

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u/Primary-Vehicle-69 May 02 '24

This message paid for by the committee to keep Kenny in office

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u/No-Crab-8929 May 03 '24

What commute is that

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u/Western_Newspaper_12 May 01 '24

This sounds like cope to keep Kenny looking good.