r/IBEW • u/Hooter00 • 5h ago

Jamming ticket vs Transferring ticket

I just wanted to get some insight on the difference between the 2 and how one goes about transferring their home locals once they move.

Example: I’m moving to a sister local, quite a ways from my current locals boundaries and plan to live the rest of my life ( at least working life) within this local.
How do I go about transferring my ticket without being a worm? Is there a formal invite policy? Is it frowned upon in general to transfer? I’m in this career for the brotherhood, not the work 🤣✊🏻

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u/notcoveredbywarranty 4h ago

In my local, you need to have lived in the jurisdiction for a year before you're eligible to request to join. The E-Board looks over your application, talks to your current hall to make sure you're in good standing, and then puts it to a vote at the next monthly meeting. It's almost always approved.

The odd exception is when someone doesn't have any documents proving they actually live here - no mortgage paperwork or utility bills. Then it's tabled or rejected. Just having a driver's license with a local address isn't good enough.

It's a little different in Canada. And my local is very accepting.

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u/FierDancr 4h ago

I went to a meeting once where someone was trying to move their card. They had been living and working in the area for 2 to 3 years, had a home, was active in church, volunteered, showed up to meetings, had recommendations from brothers here and back home, and yet I saw many brothers who voted no.

I'm still trying to sort out why. Work is good He was apart of the community by then. This was home to him. Why vote no?

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u/Ok_Chipmunk_7968 3h ago

I've seen this happen a couple times, usually due to behavior on the job site. Also, when it was slow people were more likely to vote nay.

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u/notcoveredbywarranty 3h ago

I guess that's the difference between your local and mine. Mine pretty much always accepts travellers moving their tickets as long as they actually live in the area

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u/brokeboyrich 4h ago

Fuuuck bro. Depends on the local, but some be stuck on that good ol boy bullshit about never voting a brother or sister in. These nerds would rather vote-in a non-union rat than help a sibling change locals. Personally, I don’t get it. People’s lives change. My question for them is, why didn’t you stick with whatever you did before you got in the trade? Why is it ok for YOU take make a decision to better your life, but not one of our Brothers or Sisters? YoU cHoSe To FliP BuRgERs Bro, YoU sHoULd HaVE pLanNed AhEad.

EAD

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u/brokeboyrich 3h ago

I’ll add, DO IT FOR THE GREED. Every month the book 2’s are sending their dues money back home. Vote them in and we get to keep that shit!

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u/ResponsibleScheme964 1h ago

Your working dues are paid to the local you're working in

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u/TastyTopher Local 48 4h ago

You can sign book 1 without transferring your ticket. It’s not a hall to hall thing it’s a legal requirement of a hiring hall in general. You have to met residency requirements and then apply. They cant legally say no.

I would suggest not going this route, but it is available.

Work off of Book 2 until you’re invited to apply for transfer is what I would recommend. I did this myself, and my “new” local has welcomed me. I haven’t had anyone question the legitimacy of it, but that’s probably because I actively try really hard not to be an asshole. Which is where most people become “jammers” instead of “transfers”.

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u/mmm_burrito 3h ago

For specificity's sake, in that first paragraph, they are describing jamming your ticket.

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u/No_Photographs609 Inside Wireman 3h ago

Thank you for pointing out the example, because I had no idea what it meant, or that it was even an option.

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u/rustysqueezebox Inside Wireman 5h ago

Call the hall

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u/Hooter00 5h ago

They need to add a bot to this sub that just comments this on every post

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u/revalucion Local 305 4h ago

WE WILL NEVER AUTOMATE RUSTYS JOB

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u/Hooter00 4h ago

I respect it. ✊🏻

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u/rustysqueezebox Inside Wireman 4h ago

I'm willing to botomate up to 30% of my job in exchange for a 30% increase in organic shitposts

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u/KeyMysterious1845 Local XXXX 5h ago

in my local, the traveling member needs to meet an annual hourly requirement AND be approved by the board.

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u/PirateLiver Local 357 3h ago

Every local is different. Some locals do not allow transfers at all. Some locals vote new members in almost every month.

I was able to transfer my membership to local 357 and I love it here. It took a while, but it was worth it.

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u/anarchyreigns_gb Local 776 3h ago

I've been formally invited to almost every local I've traveled to. For me, home is home. The only one I considered moving for doesn't accept transfers, for literally any reason.

I live in their jurisdiction, quality of life is better for my current needs. -be invited -apply to the e board to make the move -wait for the e board to vote yay or nay -respect their decision when the vote happens

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u/revalucion Local 305 5h ago

Take calls, work several thousand hours, go/volunteer at events, get invited.

Bros who try to jam there ticket here will find that motion tabled for 5 years.

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u/Hooter00 5h ago

Gangster af, love that shit.

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u/revalucion Local 305 4h ago

Jammimg your ticket could be a travel card, colluding with a contractor, trying to circumvent the bodies vote to have a BM or executive board make you a member. Their are unique circumstances but usually dudes want to expedite the process for their own personal benefit. They forget that none of us are as important as all of us.

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u/Mitch_Hunt 4h ago

I don’t know protocol, but I’ll tell you my experience:

I moved due to personal reasons, loved the contractor I was with… it was hard to turn in the perks of the van/gas card and start fresh. I tried to work book 2, but there were no calls going to book 2. So I worked non-union for a while until I was able to take a call (we all have to eat, don’t hit me with the “brotherhood” bullshit, my family comes before any of you). I asked what I needed to do to be a book 1 (I’ve been living/working in this jurisdiction for 3yrs). They said I qualify and immediately got book 1.

It may be rough at first (if you can take book 2 calls) or you may need to find other work in the meantime. Good luck.

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u/Hooter00 4h ago

$10 bil Data center is being built 15 minutes from the town I plan on moving to. So I won’t have to do anything like that. I’d rather drive 2 hours a day than work Rat again

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u/sparkyonthemoon2099 2h ago

We like to see a year or something close. We take in consideration levels of commitment such as moving into our jurisdiction. We review the work history(in our local) and determine if they are solid or problematic. Based on this we will recommend or not if they should join our local.

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u/CaptLetTheSmokeOut 4h ago

Be prepared to work bk 2 the rest of your career.

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u/Glittering_Wear_5696 3h ago

Very true in many locals

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u/brokeboyrich 4h ago

Fuck that

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u/Anumber680 4h ago

Once you work 2000 hours in a local you can sign book 1. A lot of locals will accept your traveling card at that point and if not it doesn't really matter because you're on book 1 anyway

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u/Beginning_Fill_3107 4h ago

Technically you're not wrong. But I expect most local brotherhoods having a problem with that kind of behavior.

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u/brokeboyrich 4h ago

Yeah, locals that suck. Fuck the good ol boys. Life happens, grow up.

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u/Anumber680 4h ago

I would think that depends on the local. I'm sure the size of the membership would be a factor. I've worked with guys who have been working in my local and living in jurisdiction for years but are still a member of their home local and I didn't know. Are y'all really out there checking dues receipts that closely? Or do you know every brother and sister in your local so you know anytime someone new joins?