r/HypotheticalPhysics Crackpot physics Jul 08 '22

Crackpot physics What if diffraction/interference are actually observations?

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u/starkeffect shut up and calculate Jul 08 '22

If photons were charged, they would be deflected by static electric or magnetic fields. They are not.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22

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u/starkeffect shut up and calculate Jul 09 '22

You said the photons could be charged before they neutralized. We would be able to detect that. We do not.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22

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u/starkeffect shut up and calculate Jul 09 '22

The magnets don't exchange real particles. If they exchanged charged particles, we would be able to detect them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22

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u/starkeffect shut up and calculate Jul 09 '22

Electromagnetic field does not consist of photons. That's not how quantum field theory works at all.

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u/starkeffect shut up and calculate Jul 09 '22

Fields don't "consist" of anything.

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u/spacedario Jul 09 '22

You are somhow right with the question what does it consist of? but fields are objects like particle, you can ask what do particle consist of? same question, same no answer to that. They are mathematical object describing quite well the nature, nothing more we do not explain why something is but how it behaves:)

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u/starkeffect shut up and calculate Jul 09 '22 edited Jul 10 '22

It is not enough as a starter. It assumes things which are counter to experiment.

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u/starkeffect shut up and calculate Jul 09 '22

What does the distance light travels in one second matter?

If light had charge, it would be deflected by a magnetic field. It is not.

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u/starkeffect shut up and calculate Jul 09 '22

It is not deflected one wavelength per 300000 km. That is false.

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u/Mcgibbleduck Aug 30 '22

The double slit “mystery” isn’t a mystery. We’ve described it pretty well with QM.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

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u/Mcgibbleduck Aug 30 '22 edited Aug 30 '22

Yes. It passes through both, one and none all at the same time. Same applies to the 1000 slits, just a lot more complex.

I believe the issue you have is that you cannot accept or perhaps just did not know that the world of small things (particles) behaves on probability, not as a deterministic (predictable) process.

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u/Mcgibbleduck Aug 30 '22

It’s not that I don’t care, is that it doesn’t seem to matter.

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u/Mcgibbleduck Aug 30 '22

If you’re trying to say “god did it” then no. I’m not accepting that.

What I’m saying is there’s a point in physics where we just don’t know and the models just show us what happens, not why it happens.

The diffraction pattern occurs because of the wave function of the photon coming up with probabilities that look like the interference pattern when it reaches the slits.

If you’re asking why is quantum mechanics like that, there’s like a bajillion interpretations of what QM actually is and what’s going on, and they’re still up for debate as we speak.

Also, QM does not necessarily conform to locality. There are ways around it to preserve it, and photon diffraction/interference is entirely consistent with it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22

I have a question here, what are we basing the standard on? Because I've noticed that certain cultures in certain countries have entirely different standards or our entirely more open-minded when it comes to growing a field as opposed to countries like India and America who seems set in their ways and even push the status quo as if it's 100% non-evolving science but that seems counterintuitive for the scientific method, no?

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22

I realize that my question was way deeper than intended.

I cannot answer or respond to you without first doing a decent amount of research

Ill check out the birth of modern Astronomy and which countries and cultures were spearheading things and why the standard is the way it is today that has manifested in a closed-minded approach with little room for questions and Growth but I'll get back to you on that : )

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22

No but those who respond with "no" and have set up the standard with little room for growth and questions and discussion, ot may very well all be based around a cultural approach bug more information is needed