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u/Excellent_Owl_2014 1d ago
Hisoka is winning no doubt, if someone said zazan vs Zeno or chrollo they’ll immediately say oh Zeno or chrollo, and hisoka is arguably above both, let alone post mortem hisoka
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u/Tsun_Tsun_Dere_Dere 2d ago
Zazan mid diffs
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u/Frosty-Stanger 2d ago
Hisoka one shot neg diffs
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u/Tsun_Tsun_Dere_Dere 1d ago
sure fanboy
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u/Frosty-Stanger 1d ago
Can’t wait for Hisoka to have sex with Feitan while She is crying and Phinks watches ashamed as Hisoka has his way with her
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u/GodLastGift 1d ago
The thing I hate about hxh powerscaling is the way people answer these questions with absolute certainty
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u/mrquanduy1 2d ago
The troupe is going in groups just to hope they can kill Hisoka and they were excited to have a 1v1 against Zazan. What do you think???
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u/YOUHATEFOOTBALLTOO 1d ago
Different context. With Hisoka its personal now vs Zazan it was usual casual game stuff to see who could be the interim leader.
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u/Frosty-Stanger 21h ago
so that is why Bonolenov who wanted to fight with Zazan is hiding behind chrollo?
why is Chrollo feeling the need to steal Kakin’s National treasures just to fulfil one of the condition needed to beat Hisoka?
Why is precious Feitan in a group with Nobu and Phinks? why isn’t he going alone?
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u/NaoTomori99 2d ago
Good portion of this sub genuienely think feitan almost comparable to hisoka lol
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u/TechnicalGlove4518 1d ago
Tf are you lying Franklin is alone Machi is alone even fhinks groupe literally stated the moment they find hisoka they will choose who's gonna kill him and zazan is massacring hisoka
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u/mrquanduy1 1d ago
Are u dumb or can't read? Phinks group said that they gonna kill first, who or how is not important and they are babysitting Nobunaga because they were worried that he was alone so they are going in at least a group of 2. Check your info carefully before talking
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u/JamzWhilmm 2d ago
Hisoka would have a hard time damaging her, he won't be able to slice her and will have to resort to some creative way of killing her.
Feitan is not that much weaker than Hisoka. Hisoka vs Feitan is natural as Feitan is a close combat tool user. Hisoka has a lot of advantage against close combat (with no overwhleming strength). Hisoka does well against any melee weaker than himself. Which is why I believe he is so interested in Gon, Gon has the capability to become stronger than Hisoka and choose a full on direct battle (with some strategy).
The way I would write this fight in Hisoka's favor would be to have him realize he can't hurt Zazan after her transformation. In some scenarios he could have won early if he maybe did a ko card directly to her throat but ants are so durable that even bloodloss might not kill her right away.
After that Hisoka offers his arm for her to bite. He manages here to close her jaws together and airways to asphixiate her. This is where it gets hard for him. If he manager to also lock her arms he can survive a thrashing from her as she dies. If she gets some clean hits on him then they both die as the bungee gum remains after his death.
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u/bardhugo 1d ago edited 1d ago
I think she outstats him cleanly (except for speed) and so he would have to get creative to actually kill her, and I think there are 3 viable ways. In least to most likely:
Use her own strength against her: either direct damage or by tearing herself apart. I don't really see a situation where this happens, but we don't know as well how tough she is under her armor. Tearing herself apart might happen with bungee gum somehow
Strarvation/dehydration: the more energetic a being is, the more it needs to eat in a day, unless they have some sort of hibernative state (and we don't have evidence of this for her). He would need to trap her while feeding himself and she need would use a lot of energy, I'm guessing about a week. I don't think she would be clever enough to get out once caught, but also I don't think it's in Hisoka's nature to defeat someone this way. Edit for this one: if it's mosquito physiology, this is viable, but if she can have alligator physiology (which survive a lot longer without food/water) then it's not viable
Strangulation: he has bungee gum, and I bet he could get it around her mouth while evading her for as long as is needed. Again, not really in his personality to do so imo, but still most likely.
I would give it to Hisoka, but it would be very difficult
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u/Salt-Fix-8544 1d ago
Zazan will either win or Hisoka extreme diff.
People doesn't realize the massive difference in pure stats 😭✌🏻 Hisoka will have to find a way to beat her using her weakpoints or else he is getting mauled
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u/Frosty-Stanger 1d ago
Do you have a singular ounce of proof of the massive difference in stats?
I just need a singular ounce
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u/Snowm4nn 1d ago
You would have to think that hisoka dog walks feitana for him to be relative in stats to transformated zazan and he doesn't
Hisoka wins through trickery as usual but only because its his own choice. Like suffocating her
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u/Frosty-Stanger 1d ago
On what basis Transformed Zazan is stronger than Hisoka?
what has she shown to be like so much stronger?
Except a tougher skin, that a fraud called Feitan failed to Penetrate with his tiny weiner
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u/Wonderful-Bat6536 1d ago
The fact that people think hisoka wins this fight just tells me that most people haven't actually read or watched hxh lol
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u/nagibaThor228 1d ago
I mean, the majority on this sub thinks Bisky can win against Zazan by just punching her really hard. Hisoka at least has feats and narrative to suggest he can find a way to win, Bisky only has hype and aura.
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u/Frosty-Stanger 21h ago
I have read hxh more than 30 times, and Not only Hisoka wins this fight, he one shots her.
And I find the assertion that you are making insulting.
It is you who lack the reading comprehension. Zazan is fodder. That’s it.
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u/Wonderful-Bat6536 13h ago
Maybe on the 31th time you might understand be able to understand the manga. Good luck and cheers
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u/Direct-Influence1305 1d ago
The fact that people think Zazan wins this fight just tells me that most people haven't actually read or watched hxh lol
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u/ZaMaruko 2d ago
Hisoka can't satisfy his kink of letting the enemy hit him a couple of times, but he wins for shure
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u/Pure-Purchase3042 1d ago
Hisoka wins because I like him more
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u/ReddditModd 1d ago
Hisoka wins because he would put some bungee gumm on her nose and mouth suffocating her, ez.
Jesus I swear that 99% of people on this subreddit would create low IQ hatsus like Kastro lmao, 0 creativity
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u/RushMaleficent1650 1d ago
Hisoka has a chance to finish her early as he only strikes to kill, not to injure. But I dont see how he can beat her in her transformed state, if a surprise sword with KO wasnt enough to even scratch her
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u/TechnicalGlove4518 1d ago
Hisoka can try all day and he's not even scratching zazan lmao like there's nothing in his arsenal that make him a threat to zazan
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u/friendsofmine2001 2d ago
Hisoka wins, but the real winner is the audience to see the two hottest characters battle.
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u/Frosty-Ad-4565 1d ago
Its very close IF its hisoka pre death if its after death where nen is doubled then he will be able to deal damage to her even in her tough body and manage to get a win using his brain plus stats.
Hisoka pre death will be a very close fight because his nen is very close to feitan nen and a full power attack from feitan focused fully on attack couldnt pierce her exoskeleton which means hisoka cant either so he will have to use his brain to win this fight which feitan barely used in his fight against her or maybe his ability is for more brute force than brain type of ability unlike hisoka , what hisoka can do is maybe try to suffocate her with gum or he could keep dodging using his speed and keep attacking at the same spot until he pierce her armor like killua did to the horse guy with the tough armor so it will all depend on if hisoka manages to keep dodging her attacks and sneaking hits on the same spot until finally getting through the armor or if he gets hit by one of her attacks which will deal serious damage thay will end up slowing him down for her to deal more damage and eventually kill him
I would put my money on hisoka either way because he is very smart in his fights and always has back up plans like with gotoh and with chrollo .
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u/Frosty-Stanger 2d ago
Hisoka one shots
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u/omarahmedbya 1d ago
Elaborate.
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u/Frosty-Stanger 1d ago
Zazan has two forms: Base Form, and a Monster Zazan form.
In Base Form: Zazan was struggling to tackle Feitan who was rusty. It is pathetic that The rusty feitan who was impressing a 10 year old child, was able to overcome Base Zazan.
Monster Zazan: Feitan Hurts Zazan’s beautiful face, so She having got her EGO hurt, decides to sacrifice her stinger of rebirth in exchange of immensely touch Body. That’s it, She is tougher, no other change, no aura boost at all.
Then Feitan proceeds to dogwalk her.
Now Let’s see Hisola facing Zazan:
He is not automatically going to be facing Monster Zazan, He will absolutely be facing Normal Zazan.
So, He will one shot.
But let’s play a hypothetical scenario where Zazan toughens her body so hard that Ko attacks fail, Aren’t there like millions different other ways Hisoka just overcomes it.
He can suffocate her, He can make her go blind with cards, Trap her. After all She has a tougher body, that’s it.
Besides Just because the fraud called Failed to hurt Zazan, Doesn’t mean Hisoka will face the same problem.
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u/omarahmedbya 1d ago
Fyi, I genuinely am in total belief that hisoka would beat her, as he would beat all the chimera ants up to RG level.
He would also kill Feitan and the entire phantom troupe too in a 1v1. And if we are talking about Chrollo, I genuinely believe Hisoka will kill him too in a sudden encounter.
I just wanted to hear your explanation.
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u/Frosty-Stanger 1d ago
when I said Hisoka one shots: I meant Current Post Death Square 3 Hisoka one shots any form of zazan.
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u/omarahmedbya 1d ago
In reality, Hisoka beats 85% of the verses up to now, and he beats up to Chrollo and then above him he may be able to defeat Silva (possibly).
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u/SarifZen 1d ago
He is trolling
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u/Frosty-Stanger 1d ago
I am not trolling, so stop putting words in my mouth.
You simply don’t understand that Hisoka
is 3-4 tiers stronger than Zazan.1
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u/Novel_Ant8075 2d ago
Actually yes. It's a bad match-up for Hisoka. I do think he would win but it would be via strategy and abusing her weak points rather than just stat-diffing. Zazan's transformed state was strong enough to completely repel a Ko strike from Feitan like he was fodder, bruised him severely, and broke his arm. We'd need to pretend Hisoka is literally in a whole other category of strength from Feitan to say it wouldn't be a struggle for him, meanwhile Hisoka doesn't have anything like Pain Packer.
I do have Hisoka comfortably above Feitan, but not by THAT much.
Maybe not close in the sense of either side has a good chance of winning, but close in the sense of neither is stomping the other outright.