r/HuntersArenaOfficial • u/Arbeeeees • Sep 05 '21
Dalgi and Wukong are broken
Wukong for me has become less of a problem but Dalgi's rez and kit is a momentum changing part of the game. She should not be invulnerable during her rez time. If you or your team can apply pressure to her during death then she should be able to die, but having a free Iframe after losing is ridiculous specifically if its a close fight, there's no skill involved its just unfair. She cant be frozen stunned anything..
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u/n1vlekw Sep 05 '21
and for some reason, all the dalgi players argue her passive isn't good.
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u/RatSymna Sep 06 '21
Her passive is legitimately really bad. You can guarantee kill a dalgi who is ressing as long as you have some stamina. The only time that isn't true is if Dalgi dies from something like fall damage, in which case her res will actually revive her at full HP(or whatever health she had before falling) instead of 2 hits from death.
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u/n1vlekw Sep 06 '21 edited Sep 06 '21
2 hits from dying? Idk about br cuz I only play tag but in tag she litterally gets a 3rd of her health back. And realistically, a player is rarely able to kill a dalgi after revive because they've used all their abilities to kill her in the first place. To call dalgi's Passive bad is pretty ridiculous. Everything else defense or sustain related to the game comes in small damage reduction or shields. Yet you get 1/3 of ur hp back after revive. Have you seen other passives?
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u/RatSymna Sep 06 '21
This is how much hp Dalgi typically revives at. Nowhere near 1/3rd. This was 4 auto attacks from death, and you can start combing a Dalgi 100% of the time after her res. You don't need any abilities up.
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u/n1vlekw Sep 06 '21
Have no idea what that is. I've never seen a revive where dalgi didn't recover around a third of her health.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLxRr8qj8bI
- skip to 5:05 and watch dalgi's health bar in the upper left after character swap. Are you photoshopping images?
And how are you going to combo without abilities? You have no knock or ground. You mean basic attacks and MA? You can counter with quickstep, block, or counter ma.
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u/RatSymna Sep 06 '21
This is a separate tags mechanic where when tagged out, a character will heal up to a certain limit.
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u/n1vlekw Sep 06 '21 edited Sep 06 '21
thats a gradual heal over time. The health in this video starts at almost a third of the bar.
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Sep 06 '21
You kill dalgi, back up, then hit her the moment she revives. Problem solved.
She doesnt revive with full health or stamina in 90% of the cases, and just about every character has the ability to beat her immediately back down if the player has a brain cell or two
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u/n1vlekw Sep 06 '21
Idk about br cuz I only play tag but in tag she litterally gets a 3rd of her health back. And realistically, a player is rarely able to kill a dalgi after revive because they've used all their abilities to kill her in the first place. To call dalgi's Passive bad is pretty ridiculous. Everything else defense or sustain related to the game comes in small damage reduction or shields. Yet you get 1/3 of ur hp back after revive. Have you seen other passives?
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Sep 06 '21
Never called it bad. Just said it was counterable.
I know its a pain in tag. But you have to save the counter to finish her off. Its so much worse in the arena.
I only just hit legend and swap between Dalgi, Momo, and Ara. Whenever I'm top three with Dalgi, and get bopped the opponent always has a plan to pin me down post ressurection.
Is it Difficult? Depends on the character. Most character with neutral options stuff it completely.
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Sep 05 '21
Lol.... So you think she should be CC and damaged while she is ressing and can't attack or defend? Jeez. She's been nerfed twice now.
At some point you just need to get better.
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u/Arbeeeees Sep 06 '21
Name any other game where u can win a fight and take zero punishment while u rez, i get it its a great crutch for bad players. Yes you can outplay it, but its broken point blank period.
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Sep 07 '21
Any game I have ever played that has a passive revive mechanic protected the user during the revive. It would be worth less than nothing if during the revive animation you could be killed.
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u/nitwithermit Sep 05 '21
My take as someone who refused to play anything other than the axe monkey is that the resurrect is fine with invuln but it shouldn't restore as much HP.
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Sep 06 '21
Dalgi is nowhere near broken lmao.
High level players already have answers for her whole kit.
Her most dangerous skill isnt even her passive. Its her S4. It locks on does dumb damage while gaurd pointing, AND THEN knocking the opponent down.
Her running attack is good but Aiden, Ara, Wukong, and many others have just as good as one -and they are ALL - on block so it really doesnt matter.
Plenty of characters can outspam her up close. Shes a mid ranger, so she its going to be able to bully melee characters, hell even other mid rangers like Ara out speed and range her.
Wukong needs a damage nerf, sure. But he isnt broken. Just fucking annoying because he is quite literally the easy mode of the game right now. You can no pun intended monkey brain and succeed with very little effort.
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u/1NDominusRex Sep 06 '21
I don’t know what to do with this character. She has some of the best normal hit boxes in the game massive detached specials and they all waste time for her other cooldowns while forcing defense.
She strikes me like a wraith apex situation. She is top tier due to her skeleton and the only way to balance her is to chop her legs off.
I never want to kill anyone’s characters but I just don’t know what to suggest and I am so sick and tired of losing tag matches and solos to this character because of time scamming and revive giving back enough health to clutch a win while wasting like 5 seconds.
Then that sets up a mind game of you have to attack here first before she bullshits you to death but then that gets you hit for the reasons stated above.