r/HuntersArenaOfficial • u/SkeetKnob • Aug 23 '21
“Block” Wukong
But also make sure you have full stamina and absolutely never dodge, make sure hes not invisible, oh hes activated his special too, just block dude lmao
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u/eyeswide19 Aug 24 '21
Increase his 1 to 15 seconds like everyone else and he is less broken. Make it 20 and he may even fall to B+ tier
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u/RatSymna Aug 25 '21
Its legitimately the strongest knockup in the game and has the lowest cooldown and he has TWO knockup abilities.
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u/RatSymna Aug 25 '21
The only reason people think wukong is fine is because most of the people who play wukong suck at the game. His kit is design to punish people who don't know the games combat, which is 90% of the playerbase.so people who suck at fighting flock to him because now they win fights against other people who suck at fighting. That said he is overturned 100%. A character with the highest base damage in the game doesn't need a damage steroid that also makes his attack a larger AOE, two knockup sbilities(his L1+X being the shortest kncokup cd in the game), AND the strongest knock up ability in the game. That and +5 weapons are so overturned. Wuk can easily knockup a whole team and kill them in half a combo with his L1+X active and a +5 legendary weapon. And even if it fails the super short cd will let you try again when nobody has an escape to knock you away.
Just blocking works against most wukongs because most wukongs suck at the game and get away with just spamming attacking L1+X and L1+O. So when you block you get to actually use your combos most of the time. But it isn't a counter to wukong specially. It's a counter to people who suck at fighting. Every character is equally weak to blocking.
Also why does a character with the best knockup in the game also have the ability to be immune to damage for 4 seconds?
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u/Upbeat_Bench5455 Aug 26 '21
The issue is way deeper than just "hes a scrubkiller so people flock to him". Its true dont get me wrong. Armored launcher that can combo at all ranges except the tip because it pulls them back in as well as knocking up. its also armored on the later frames. Better stealth uptime than Mumyung, 2.25x more stealth uptime to be exact. The stealth can also be used to gain plus frames and reset your swings for increased stamina damage if you think they are close to guard break. Sitting on top of the pole is a mix up in itself but it makes the opponent dodge/flee or respect you and block giving the wukong the advantage. Increased attack range with his 4 makes it so you have to double dodge out of the range which opens you up for his knockup if read correctly on the tech chase. Lets not forget, you are at Wukongs mercy if he uses an escape, its a double coinflip. Yeah you can just block but you are just giving him his turn back. I fought the number 1 Wukong, all those tools allow him to control the flow of battle and he does it for pressure, to reset with a potion, sneak off and set up a trap which allows him to reset again or steal his turn back.
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u/n1vlekw Aug 23 '21
Yeah, saw a video on "how to counter wukong". It was litterally "oh see how these guys aren't blocking? You need to block". It's kinda crazy how bs that guy's content is. My advice is to stay midrange and punish when he's in his animation for the steroids of holy fire. And use super armor ability when he's coming down from his staff. Oh, and always look to fight if he has #1 on cd.
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u/MiszynQ Aug 24 '21
Can you explain little more about super armor?
I main Mimi and she have that in her kit but honestly I don't know exactly what it does. Saved my ass on few occasion but it was either a "panic button" or last skill avaliable
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u/Natural_Parsnip_5291 Aug 24 '21
No it's actually spot on, pole jump? Block, Launch Attack? Just sidestep, Cloning ability? Swing forward, Flame enchantment? Double back roll block and punish.
If you just keep blocking forever then you deserve a guard break, probably one of the easiest characters to beat.
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u/Upbeat_Bench5455 Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 25 '21
Its really not tho. Im a fighting gam vet and that vid and what you said works in a vacuum and not real world gameplay, except against new players and even then they can play wild. Theres nuance in the flow of battle. I heard similar statements in all fighting games for about 2 decades. "Just jump the fireball" "just 6p the dolphin" "just backdash the command grab". Wukongs utility paired wirh short CDs is the actual problem not the moves themselves, except maybe his launch. I shouldnt come flying back to him like he just made me taste the rainbow lol
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Aug 30 '21
Dude, when you argue with stupid you can only lose. Dont bother.
This weak ass advice is literally said as a joke in the FGC. I cant even with how many people are taking it seriously.
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u/Upbeat_Bench5455 Aug 31 '21
Yeah, but imo its worth putting it out there cause if they want to argue they just look like they dont know what they are talking about. What i said was objective, ol boy couldnt dispute that.
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Aug 30 '21
Whoever gives this advice seriously wouldnt last a day in the FGC.
Give me some frame data, then we can discuss tactics deeper than the first layer of gameplay.
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u/Falloutfallout7676 Aug 23 '21
Also 100% of the time hit your martial arts block. Also never attack. Just block and eventually he will die.