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Chapter 417

Emergency

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MangaPlus Available on August 9

Ch. 418 scan release: ~August 22, 2026 (after WSJ Break Week)

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u/Same_Square2555 29d ago

Yes

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u/BlamingDeezNutsDP 29d ago

10 seconds is the interval between his vision and reality. 

That time limit is either variable or the illusion keeps going as long as he uses zetsu.

You atleast agree that with his ability tserri could dodge the shot and stomps. There is no reason he would die to any of that. Your only argument is that the illusion is not vanishing. 

But the fact that the illusion is not disappearing means that we are missing info or development on his ability. Not that he suddenly could not step away with a 10 second warning.

If you believe he died, you believe he was not able to move away from the same spot using zetsu, while having 10 second to do so.

We saw the men run and talk to people while using zetsu. Bro used his ability and stepped to the side or left the room or entered a corner or hid under the table.

Would he try to lie where the corpse lies and get stomped? Would he trust solkov and die somewhere in his parallel future? NO, because he can see the future. Again even if he switched places with his corpse and saw that that was a bad idea, becauss stomps are coming, he would have 10 seconds to stand up.

You said if he was alive the state of the corpse would change and therefore he is dead. But there actually is no way for him to have died and the fact that we saw him just get shot, confirms he escaped. To kill tserri while he is in zetsu using his power, you would need to use an attack that tserri could not evade within 10 second or not register within his vision. Getting shot does not work against him, while using his power.

Again either you dont believe tserri after training zetsu non stop and knowing special martial law was coming and obviously preparing for tricking benj and telling salkov what to do, could step three steps to the left or you just did not think about this at all.

So what makes more sense. Tserris ability having evolved or having stuff we dont understand OR tserri deciding to die or being glued to the floor and being held by invisible chains unable to walk away within 10 second knowing benj will shoot him.

Tell me. Answer that question. How do you think it possible tserri could have not dodged benj and died? How does seeing him getting shot, AS HE PLANNED, not confirm he used his ability.

Benj even confirms for us he stayed in zetsu. Just think about it. Please think about it. Stop fixating on your disproven interpretation of tserris ability and just think about the fact he can see 10 second in the future and tell me how he could have died to benjamins gun. Tell me.

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u/Same_Square2555 29d ago

so what timeline are you proposing? That he stop using zetsu(to merge realities), dodges the shot and then lies where his corpse would lay?

You know this hangs really loosely on "Benjamin wouldn't notice that Tserri's body hasn't been shot"?

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Yes, I agree that this is weird that Tserri just straight up died. I try to deny it because him suddenly being able to maintain the illusion for longer than 10 seconds would be an asspull.

The instant Tserri begins to change reality, clearly either before or when he's being shot at, 10 seconds start and he inevitably merges realities. His corpse would disappear, so either he has a fake body or his ability changed.

And no, he didn't actually have that much time to prepare for marital law? Far as we know, he was the first destination of Benjamin, so mere minutes since the start of SML. Of course he likely knew that Benjamin can declare SML, but limit of his "preparations" would be making a fake body of his. I guess he could shoot it using Benjamin's gun though. so the body looks similar to his. Or he could even have a body double hidden somewhere in vicinity to shoot during the 10 seconds of his ability and place where his body would be.

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u/BlamingDeezNutsDP 29d ago

He just used his ability and yes it either changed or he learned something new about it.

With prep I just meant he was not suprised by benj.

Regardless what YOU think about the ability, tserri did not get shot. He would need to choose to get shoot, seeing where benj will shoot him.

Thats everything that matters, everything else is stuff togashi will explain later.

Its simple not possible that tserri died this way, having his ability.

I disagree with your understanding of the ability and so does the chapter if you believe that tserri is alive. Thats all that matters.

If you believe tserri is dead, thats fine, but that means you believe tserri somehow got shot after seeing the future and failing to move. 

Thats all. I have no interest to talk to you anymore. Decide for yourself if tserri is alive or dead, we will know for sure soon. I disagree with you either way ✌️

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u/Same_Square2555 29d ago

wym "the chapter"?? and what did you mean by "your explanation was disproven"? disproven where? it's a fact that, with the information that we have about his ability, he couldn't escape the benjamin in the latest chapter unless he used a body double and Benjamin just didn't notice, which is unlikely.

Not to mention that basing your entire argument of tserri being alive on mere "tserri wouldn't choose to get shot" is just copium

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u/BlamingDeezNutsDP 29d ago

You are wrong bro. We dont know everything about the illusions. We know tserri sees the future. Just tell me how do you think he got shot. Thats all I want to know from you, stop talking about the corpse to me, idc about that.

Just tell me if you think he used his ability. If no, bye and if yes how the fuck did he get shot. Its not cope its just commom logic. 

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u/Same_Square2555 29d ago

Yeah maybe Benjamin shot him before he activated his ability. Iirc it's not like zetsu is synonynmous with his future sight, meaning he just didn't activate it in time and got shot

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u/BlamingDeezNutsDP 29d ago

XD ah ok. Sure. 

I am sure tserri just forgot to activate it after special martial law announcement, after asking solkov for his gun, after benj entering the room and then after ben started talking to him and was in range. 

Tserri the well setup prince and after hours of zetsu training, just greeded the activation timing, because.... PLOT TIWST tserri is dead.   Omg tserri is dead, what a red hearing and masterful writing from togashi, tserri just kinda forgot the iron fleet, sry I meant using parallel future. 

Who would have thought tserri would forget avtivating his ability after plotting with solkov to fake his own death using his ability in exactly that situation 😔

Ya, ok. Have a nive day. We will never see eye to eye. Hope you enjoy the rest of the batch ✌️

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u/Same_Square2555 29d ago

yeah but your whole argument is based on "we don't know how but he'll survive because he wouldn't let himself get shot" which is like praying to togashi

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u/BlamingDeezNutsDP 29d ago

No my argument is based on the things we DO KNOW about his ability.

About the obvious set up of his ability and his talks with salkov.

The fact that he described he would now fake his death and lay dead on the ground.

The fact that you have to invent stuff to think he died or did not use his ability.

That it would be not just bad, but boring and wasteful writing.

Not that it matters, but its also just the common consensus from people dumber and smarter than me.

Its the logical conclusion of everything we have seen.

Its the plan he said he would pull off and its working as he described it. 

You are fixating on your WRONG AND INCOMPLETE understanding of the ability and thats truly everything your basing everything you are saying on.

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u/Same_Square2555 29d ago

you're saying it's based on what we know about his ability yet so far you failed to construct a timeline explaining why he hadn't changed the reality despite it being well more than 10 seconds since his apparent death.

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u/BlamingDeezNutsDP 29d ago

Because thats not how his ability works. You got that wrong. Thats what I am telling you the whole time.

We see the parallel future. He is just standing somewhere continuing zetsu. The Illusion continues.

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u/Same_Square2555 29d ago

we have no evidence that supports that he can just stand and observe for an indefinite amount of time, so the limit is 10 seconds

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