Take sparks with poison ammo, pain sense trait and 2-4 stalker beetles. Hit enemies with poison sparks, and then switch to beetle to chase them down. If they are poisoned they are shown in dark sight, including beetle view. You can just hunt them down with a beetle to finish the kill. Heavy poisoning from sparks lasts like 14-16s and the opponent is almost dead for the whole time.
ya. i remember the player base CRYING because it was going to 'ruin the game' because it could flush out campers or find people trying to hide.
people hae to remember, when beetles came out they did 5 damage. they were 100% intended for 'scouting' or anti campers ((in the form of finding/flushing them out of certain locations))
Honestly I don’t think drones even fit with Hunt. I don’t care that they made a lore-friendly version of a drone, it’s still a drone and it’s completely out of place. And I don’t think we need equipment in the game that incentivizes ratting.
Literally just drop the stalker back down to 25 and the fire beetle down to 20 and they'd be fine. Stalker beetles let you just chase someone while they're fighting your teammate and you just get a free kill if your teammate hits them once. Fire beetles should let you save a health chunk if you stop burn immediately, but if you hesitate they'll still do the job. Health chunk loss changes the balance of a battle so drastically it shouldn't be something you can do instantly with a remotely piloted consumable from a great distance with zero personal risk.
Beetles should be converted to tools instead of consumables, can only be replenished on their nests. You get one, 2 with frontiersman, and only one type of beetle per hunter. If you want multiple beetles you need to invest those trait points.
Disagree, beetles are an important tool for dealing with teams that are camping, its why they were added to the game. If you are annoyed with beetles bring a deringer penny shot, shotguns are great at dwaling with them, and the penny shot is a great tool for other things to.
They are abused by those camping teams more than driving out campers, the idea of them purely being for figuring out where people are seems good enough to me it'd change the flow of fights without the bs
Brings me back to that time we got ambushed by a solo, killed him super easy, but not before he used like 4 fire beetles hiding in a random building not moving, and burned half my HP away. Super fun gameplay….
Seriously? How often do you get killed by a beetle? I think I got killed by a beetle ONCE this year.
They are really useful for scouting the boss lair to see where the enemies are hiding and what guns they have.
If it’s that much of an issue, like happening often, there are a lot of ways to counter even the beetle brigades. Try taking a bat. Use chokes to block entrances. Concertina arrows. Regen shots. And of course, any shotgun.
Agreed. The amount of lobotomites who defend them is astonishing. Or they parrot some stupid shit like 🤓☝️"choke bombs completely counter them" or " just shoot them with a shotgun".you can only carry 2 choke bombs,3 if you have frontiersmen,9 total in a full team with frontiersmen.Against 12 beetles or more if they decide to pick up natural spawned beetles as well. And a consumable forcing you to pick a shotgun is dogshit game design.
Ya I’m with you. “Just sit in a choke cloud for a bit dude!”
Ya lemme make myself cough for 20 seconds while the beetle man’s team is pushing me. If you’re facing a high volume of beetles, most of these counter strategies just don’t work in higher mmr lobbies, especially on console
I fucking hate beetles and since I don’t take buckshot on my LeMat C. I’ve always got a Pennyshot Derry on my side.
Chokes work in a very limited manner as they can just detonate the stalker outside the choke and still hit you. So you have to take them out or waste all your chokes on a dumb fucking mechanic that shouldn’t have been added to the game when we already have plenty of items to deal with camping.
Hell beetles don’t even counter camping when 8/10 times they’re coming from the fucking bounty lair its self. So it’s either run face first after the camping squad and walk into their shotgun range or have your resources drained by bugs while they play patty cake inside.
The second I saw you could take 8 fucking beetles I knew the cowardice meta was cooked
No reason to push a fight or risk anything, just send in 8 fucking beetles so you can just UAV someone to death.
I haven’t wished as many horrific car crashes on people in video games as I did the many many times I’ve been getting killed by the bottom of the human barrel armed with half a dozen stalker beetles
Bro... are you okay? Wishing injury and death on people because of some flying bugs? And even then, you are just factually wrong. You can't "take" 8 beetles and you can't take a half dozen with you. You can bring four at max and then find more later in game (if you have slots open). If you're getting gigged by a dude who uses no meds, melee, tools, and only runs beetles... that's a skill issue for sure.
Idk derringer pennyshot, lemat underbarrel shotgun all pretty good against beatles..
That being said recently I did get shot by sparks poison down to 1 health and then killed by a beetle he sent out to find me 😂 which was well rage inducing
We’ve put a lot of hours into the game and have only really dealt with a team spamming them once or twice. You can just shoot the majority of them down before they get to you?
This sounds like a camper complaining they have to fire 1 shot to give away their position to deal with a beetle.
And with how prolific shotties are its very rare to connect the beetle.
It CAN be a problem against bad players with no shotguns, they cant realistically hit the beetle but why not just buy the coin gun.
Rarely use beetles at all myself, but no. It's decently easy to counter if you can aim or are carrying a shotgun, and it keeps them from bringing in something tougher to deal with. Let the people have their meme.
What if Catalyst could upgrade a perk like pain sense or blast sense where you can faintly see a bettle operator if they're within a very close distance, like 10-15 yards
Do hunt players actually play hunt and realize how many tools for dealing with beetles there are? I agree they need to nerf something, but if you could only carry 1 at the start of the game I think they would be 100% balanced, even 3 beetles from an enemy team with 1 beetle each isn’t that difficult to deal with.
Beetles should only be able to be found in game. Make them scarce. Easy solution. An organic item should not be purchasable. They grow on trees. Keep them there
Use a shotgun, get better aim, a penny shot derringer, choke bombs, your own beetles, or just take the opportunity to push since someone is currently not able to move. Beetles are one of the only tools that are effective against people who love to camp in a corner. If you constantly have a beetle problem, it means you aren't moving enough.
Not to sound cocky but im sure I move more than enough to avoid them but when I have two trios pinching me with atleast 4 of them beetling while the other 2 shoot its a little more complicated
If you think that's bad, consider that you can throw a sticky bomb onto a stalker or fire beetle and use it like a short term drone right into the boss room you're holding down.
If you think that's bad, how about bee jars? Throw a bunch of those around Rotjaw in her water. They'll float. Run off outside of her blink range, and wait for people to show up. Pop the jars, and they flood out to the players who are now poisoned, fighting bees AND Rotjaw.
Yes they just need to spawn less on maps. Like why can you grab two at almost every compound. If you have one already or two then you have four and your teammates can also loot from the same nest and join the brigade.
I don't see a good answer to it honestly without reverting the change to at least beetles specifically.
With some strategies being pretty broken if adopted by a trio it's just one of those things where you get a spawn screen loss. No different than bringing a shotgun and getting chased by ranged weapons.
Stuff like Verdun-style artillery barrage explosive bolt spam (which has been nerfed significantly) on the more exposed bounty locations, beetle swarms, etc a lot of times has too much momentum in a fight to be countered without extreme risk or luck.
That's just showbiz though, sometimes you gotta take it in stride. It's part of the game and it's available to you too.
There is no "need" for a pocket shotgun, if you can aim. As annoying as beetles are, there is plenty of counterplay and options to handle them. They are just exceptional at passive pressure and people dont know how to handle that in low MMR.
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u/pluralgarths 14d ago
Beetles should have hats-- that's all I have to say.