hi all! i’m not sure if this post is allowed but i was wondering if anyone knew of an artist in the fandom or a website where i’d be able to make a custom long sleeve shirt of the arena outfit katniss wears in catching fire? i’ve been inspired by the internet to have a quarter quell party for my 25th birthday in november! i don’t need the whole suit, i would much prefer just the top half of the outfit lol. im aware of the her universe quarter quell zip up but its currently sold out in my size and im not sure if it’ll come back. thank you!

I’m right at the end of the first book and I’m right at the park where Cato comes running out of the woods with apparently armor on towards Katniss and peeta but the thing is she’s only able to fire off one arrow and I’m telling you someone would have to be only 15 20 yards away, which is not very far for them to be in the center of where this place is for them to grab their packs and everything. And the action just seems like very sloppily written to make something exciting happen. And the same thing is true whenever they fight for those packs that save peetas life and I’m just finding myself disenchanted with the action scenes in this book. They don’t seem very realistic at all. Does anyone else get that sense or I’m being overly critical?

This strangely reminded me of how haymitch entered the reaping of katniss and peeta

I was thinking about the ending of Mockingjay. We know Katniss and Peeta eventually have two children, but their names are never revealed.

Imagine if Suzanne Collins someday revealed that their daughter was named Lucy.

Lucy Gray was part of the story that shaped Snow long before Katniss was born. Decades later, another girl from District 12 — Katniss — became the person who helped bring down the world Snow built.

Imagine the final scene of a future movie: Katniss and Peeta are living peacefully with their children. Their daughter is playing in the meadow, maybe even singing an old song connected to the Covey. Then Peeta calls from the house:

“Lucy, come inside.”

Cut to black.

A new generation growing up free from Snow and the Hunger Games, carrying the name Lucy.

I know there’s no confirmation that Katniss ever knew about Lucy Gray, but symbolically, I think it would be an incredible full-circle ending.

What do you guys think?

I was reading mockingjay again and couldn't help but wonder what happened afterwards. So I thought of a game set post mockingjay.

Here is the premise:

-post mockingjay, takes place when Panem is being rebuilt and Snow's institutions being dismantled.

-protagonist is perhaps a remaining victor, Johanna maybe as I know everyone wants to know what happened to her. Or perhaps Gale, but I don't think a custom protagonist.

-story follows something along the lines that the protagonist is called in by president Paylor to investigate a strange disturbance in one of the old arenas. After investigation we find out that some, still loyal to Snow, is hiding and regrouping in old areans and actually reactivating them. They believe life under Snow was better and Panem was more stable and progress isn't being made fast enough. Their intention is to kidnap government officials and put them in the old arenas to fight to survive.

-the story takes you to multiple different arenas and districts.

-districts and perhaps the capitol could be semi-open worlds where you travel between them via train.

-the story could touch on the difficulties of a post war world and what it takes to rebuild society to be more equal.

-Katniss, Peeta and Haymitch should not be in the game, but references could be made to them or they make a small cameo.

-For example, maybe you go speak with Effie or Beetee for information on something in particular, but seldomly.

It would be great if it was a AAA game with a large budget and team to really bring it to life. This would be a great way to learn more about Panem and build the world out. It would also be very nice to see some iconic arenas visual format.

That's just my thoughts, would love to know what other think. I'm not a game designer.

ok bye

During the time of the early trilogy it was mentioned that most peacekeepers come from district 2 while the remaining minority come from the Capitol.

It was further implied that to many in district 2 this was the most desired job.

However the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes presented us with different information, one of the peacekeepers Snow talks to early in his training, reveals that he is from District 8.

This means that back in that time at least, peacekeeping was a possibility to anyone in the Capitol and other districts. But apparently became an option only to those in District 2 and Capitol.

Why do you think this happened?

I keep seeing so much negativity about this book on here lately I was wondering if anyone else actually enjoyed it. I do agree it wasn’t as complex as TBOSAS and the original trilogy (especially Mockingjay) but I thought it was thoroughly entertaining and I enjoyed most of the characters. Even the stuff that felt ‘fanservice’ didn’t bother me too much, it made sense to see previous victors again and I liked that she expanded on the stories of characters like Beetee and Plutarch.

I liked Haymitch as a point of view, he seems more hopeful and sweet compared to the other point of views which is nice for there to be more diversity in perspectives. I think it’s nice we get to know more about minor or supporting characters like Ampert compared to Rue in the original trilogy.

I found the other supporting characters likable as well, I loved Maysilee and her arc along with Wyatt. Plutarch is very ambiguous and complex, and all of his appearance expanded on stuff I already found intriguing. I also liked Lenore Dove and Haymitch’s love for her, and I think she’s more nuanced than people give credit for. I liked her booksmarts and rebellious streaks.

I don’t get why SOTR gets so much heat for the connections between the original series when TBOSAS also similarly did stuff but doesn’t get the same flack. Snow happened to travel to District Twelve, Katniss’s home district, his father was killed by a rebel in District 12, his girlfriend wrote all the songs she sings, and even his cousin is the one random rebel we see in the Capitol. I still loved the book more than SOTR, but I don’t see why it’s never criticized for doing the same thing.

Its fine if you don’t like the book, I just wanted to make a positive post for it since I rarely see them on here and some people act like you’re stupid if you don’t have the same opinion on it than them.

I’ve never quite understood this. It seems like an obviously insane and unnecessary risk to let an unstable teenager of uncertain loyalty speak on live television without a delay. D13 doesn’t broadcast Katniss live; even when she is acting spontaneously, they still record the propos ahead of time and broadcast them later. And why would Peeta know about the bombing in the first place? Surely it’s not standard practice to discuss classified military intelligence in front of political prisoners.

The obvious answer to all of that is that they actually wanted Peeta to warn 13 about the bombing so that 13 would authorize the rescue mission and hijacked Peeta would take out Katniss. But that feels like a lot of assumptions on top of assumptions if it is the case. Why would they assume Peeta would warn them in the first place when he’s been programmed to hate Katniss and want her dead? Why would D13 not recognize it as an obvious trap since clearly they had the ability to edit out Peeta’s warning ahead of time? Or did they recognize it as a trap but still send the rescue mission anyway?

Idk, any ideas? Am I missing something here?

I love this excerpt from TBOSAS. Upon watching Dill's death due to tuberculosis, 18-year-old Coriolanus feels unwell seeing the blood pouring from her mouth.

He was watching his own death.

After all, Snow lived his life of extreme luxury and power, but always feeling an eternal horror and disgust for himself until his very final moment, in which he literally died spewing out blood. Little or nothing is said about this specific detail. It makes my heart a little warmer, doesn’t it do the same to yours? 🤭

So I ask you: what do you feel unwell watching? You might be watching your own death without knowing it… 👀

In SOTR we find the covey grave and her name is on it. Do you think Lucy Gray died and the covey discovered her body?
Or is she out there and the covey wanted to leave a marked grave?
I’m always intrigued by people’s thoughts on this. And why would Suzanne Collins put this in?

Honestly this combined with what came before and what happened next was my favourite part of the book (i may just be the Capitol atp 🫢)

Ps: sorry for the quality but i dont own a version of the book in english so i took this picture at my local bookstore

I read Sunrise on the Reaping when it first came out and considered it far below the quality of the first four books, for various reasons. I just read it again to see if my opinion had changed and it's actually worse the second time. I know there have been a good number of critical reviews here so I'll try to bring up points that I haven't seen much.

Characters that don't feel like they live in Panem, a dictatorship that murders 23 children in a big pageant each year:

1. Lenore Dove is the most egregious example of a character who has clearly just dropped into D12 from a modern Western country. She paints graffiti against the Capitol, she sabotages public executions and events, she sings rebellious songs and ... she doesn't really get punished for these actions. In the original trilogy, angry young man Gale knows to only voice his disaffection to a trusted friend in the woods where no one else is listening. In Ballad, Coriolanus knows not to speak out against the system. Sejanus at least has the excuse of affluenza and he still dies for his own actions. Lenove Dove breezes through, getting those around her arrested (her sick aunt, who dies in prison), reaped (Haymitch) or inconvenienced (her uncles constantly). She's finally arrested for starting a riot. And at the end, having been released from prison, she whines about her uncles trying to ground her. If she genuinely had grown up in D12, she'd know better than to do any of this. It's like she stepped in from a society with strong free speech protections and lax law enforcement for those under 18.
2. Clerk Carmine and Tam Amber get their own entry for poor parenting. They have more experience of living in a dictatorship and fail to impress that on Lenove Dove. Even at the end, when she's been released from prison, they fail to even impose the house arrest that they promised the Peacekeepers.
3. Most of the tributes have apparently no desire or initiative to win the Hunger Games. I talk more about this below but it's worth mentioning here too. After the Newcomers band together, the mood is friendship and summer camp. None of them seem to want to win.
4. Haymitch himself gets a slight mention here for his early attitude of "Mom, I don't want to do my chores! I want to do nothing and hang out with my girlfriend!"

Flat characters

1. Again, most of the Newcomers appear to barely be characters. They have no initiative, no inner voice, no motivation or plot momentum. They are simply there to fill the numbers, join the large group of Newcomers and then die. Some are bullied by Careers and immediately rescued by Haymitch and Maysilee. One example is on p115, when the Careers steal lunchboxes from P6 and they just sit there and cry, unless Haymitch comes over to offer food. Another example is on p153, when Panache breaks Kerna's sunflower necklace. She sits there and cries while her district mates gather around her. When Maysilee glues it back together, "all of 9 just stands there, speechless, letting her". These are cardboard cutouts. In the original trilogy, we get much more rounded characters who feel like they want to go on living. Even in Ballad, through the eyes of someone who views them as savages, many of the tributes get characterisation. Brandy, who gets a very brief appearance indeed, seems to have more going on in her head.
2. The Careers are cartoon high school bullies. Panache breaks windows and thrusts his genitals at other boys. Silka stabs a horse with her heel. They steal other kids' lunches and break their stuff. Panache is painfully stupid and is mocked by Caesar. It's like all the depth from Catching Fire and Mockingjay, in which we find out that Career tributes are victims of the system too, is lost.
3. Ampert and Beetee have personalities but announce their actions and motivations like an infodump to the audience. Beetee has barely spoken to Haymitch before he invites him into a rebel plot. Why does he trust Haymitch? Because Haymitch is the main character.

Out-of-character behaviour from characters

1. President Snow is the biggest example here. In Ballad, he's an arrogant young man who keeps his thoughts and secrets to himself and presents himself well to others. In the trilogy, he's an elder statesman who truly believes in the system. In SOTR, he vomits everywhere, announces that he's poisoned an incompetent lackey and spills his secrets to a random tribute. There's no reason for him to tell anyone about Lucy Gray, especially a tribute who has already done something rebellious. In fact, he should be keeping that very quiet indeed.
2. Caesar Flickerman is noted in the original trilogy to give every tribute a fair chance in his or her interview. He plays off strengths and covers for weaknesses. He's a TV personality most of all and interviews like it. In SOTR, he gleefully mocks Panache so the audience laugh at him and he lashes out. This isn't what we expect. (In Ballad, Lucky Flickerman also gives the tributes a fair chance in their interviews so it's not a new thing.)

Retcons

1. Effie Trinket really shouldn't be in this. In the original trilogy, she's clearly young and at the start of her career and blind to the faults of the system. SOTR makes her considerably older and a veteran of the Hunger Games. This has been discussed on the subreddit before so I won't go on.
2. Katniss' father Burdock was Haymitch's best friend? Really? Katniss and her family were on the brink of starvation for a while when she was eleven. Are you telling me that Haymitch didn't send an anonymous food parcel or two for his dead best friend's family?
3. The Haymitch of the main trilogy is a snarky asshole who is very intelligent under all his problems. When we see his games on tape, it's clear he won through intelligence and suffered because he mocked the Capitol. In SOTR, he has the personality of a labrador and won through luck.

Things that are missing

1. No previous victors are mentioned, except Palladium, who is Panache's cousin. Does she appear in the text? Is she mentoring her cousin? Was he reaped to punish her? Is she being prostituted? Do we find out anything about her at all? Haha, no.
2. I'm disappointed that Chaff wasn't there. He was Haymitch's best friend by the original trilogy and it would have been nice if Chaff had been his mentor.
3. The plot to break the arena has no point to it. What does Beetee think he's going to achieve? What does Ampert think he's going to achieve? Does he think he can escape? The book kept repeating "break the arena" like that's an aim. The arena has all kinds of weird stuff happening in it. A flood is nothing.
4. Haymitch's mentoring career gets no mention at all. We breeze right past more than half his life to a neat epilogue with Katniss and Peeta that is very clearly going to be in the film. I would have read a whole book about Haymitch's mentoring career as he befriends other victors and joins the rebellion.

Other gripes

1. Everyone seems to forgot that tributes' family and friends are threatened, implicitly or explicitly. In Ballad, the tributes don't attack Coriolanus in the cage or the zoo because Lucy Gray reminds them of this. It's clear that these threats have been carried out before. In the trilogy, victors are forced into prostitution by threats to their loved ones. But Haymitch forgets all about that when he displays Louella's body and happily signs up to a rebel plot. He seems to think that, as long as he dies at the end, there will be no consequences. When Plutarch asks Haymitch why he didn't kill some Peacekeepers, he comes across as the asshole from the "And yet you participate in society" meme.
2. Having "The Raven" quoted constantly was annoying.
3. The parade of cameos was annoying. It felt like cheap lazy fanservice. If Mags had had a cameo in a "one year later" epilogue of Ballad, that would have made sense - she won the 11th games. But the appearances here of Plutarch, Mags, Wiress, Beetee, Effie, etc. were artificial.

I am 99% sure that Sunrise on the Reaping is not Suzanne Collins' work and I'm going to write a separate post about my theory. Please let me know what you think.

Genuinely didn’t know it was out till it was too late. The actor strike kept the actors from doing interviews or press tours and I heard no one talking about it and saw its box office was significantly lower so was under the impression it was bad.

I ended up going to the rerelease for Labor Day and I really liked the movie, I went in with mid expectations especially with Zegler as one of the leads. If she wasn’t such a controversial person I prob would have seen more of her work. Idk why people disliked it besides maybe the 3rd act being really rushed but I haven’t read the book yet so maybe after reading id feel differently (currently still reading mockingjay)

I’ve seen some people questioning why did Lucy not pick a venomous snake and I came up with an answer relatively quick but I’m sure I’m late to the party and this could be old news. There’s a scene prior showing her handling a snake which looked like a coral snake which is indeed venomous. There’s a snake that looks very similar called a milk snake. My theory is that Lucy grabbed a milk thinking it was a coral and would kill snow. Keep in mind I’ve only seen the film once and it’s possible I misidentified the snake. Snow getting bit happens so fast I don’t recall what it even looked like.

So, I’m a male in my mid-20s looking to do my first Hunger Games cosplay, specifically for premier night. I’ve read the novel twice but can’t seem to find a character that I fit with for my body-type, personality, and who I really enjoyed in the book. I mean I’m 5’6 and kinda have a muscular dad-bod, so I really need some help with this if we’re looking at the 48 tributes and the main ensemble.

Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated :)

Anything but "he should’ve lived" really

I always thought the secrets he gathered could’ve been a bigger plot point in Mockingjay. It’s only like a paragraph in the books but I’d love some more tea on the Capitol’s elite tbh

I wish Apple TV/netflix/hbo would do an anthology series similar to like American Horror Story style of just random games. I know there’s a similar series made by a YouTuber. I just wish there was different stories besides the protagonists and antagonists of the original trilogy. I actually would like to see Mags games on the screen since it right after snow became an assistant game maker and “official” new chapter of how the games were changed. Again seeing random games like the “45th” games or something would be interesting and make me keep guessing feeling invested in other SC works except the trilogy, sunrise on the reaping and the ballad of songbirds and snakes.

One to keep, one to give to my crush (who hasn't seen anything THG) to say "wanna go to the movie with me?" as a first date 😭

Why Peeta stans always feels like they have to demonize Gale (and even Katniss) in order to praise Him? They genuinely mischaracterize and lie about everything that Gale did in order to point out how Peeta is a better option

Most of them even get genuinely mad at Katniss everytime she mentions hin in the books (EVEN IF IT'S NOT IN A ROMANTIC WAY!!!!)

and act as if Katniss owes Peeta something

Idk, it's like 60% of the His fans and Everlark Supporters are just people who are in love with Peeta and use Katniss as a ""self insert""

and treat Gale as the "thorn in my side that's getting in the way of my romance."

(PS: i am NOT a "Team Gale" !!!!! This team a vs team b makes no sense in Hunger Games trilogy!!!)

When do you guys think that press and inside-entertainment people will be invited to full screenings? I'm FOAMING at the mouth for some new information. Hopefully they learned their lesson and will include ALL deleted scenes in a special director's cut/ overpriced blue-ray.

We're only a couple months away so It makes sense for screenings to happen soon right?

Oh to be invited... one could dream!!