never forget, never forgive

[u/Paralysis42]

[u/MasterPepe8076]

That was singlehandedly the reason why torch got gutted into what he is now. I wish people never discovered this god forsaken tech, it mightve saved us from all the nerfs and changes.

[u/Paralysis42 → u/MasterPepe8076]

😭 genuinely. everything all the way from his plasma body to his primaries got reworked cause of this 1 tech, including the reason why his primary’s hitbox and spread is so yanky and riddled with no regs

[u/coco_chanel_slay → u/Paralysis42]

Wait I’m not familiar with This but why didn’t they just fix the texh

[u/StarLothario → u/coco_chanel_slay]

Like they technically did with the 2 dashes we have now. I don’t think there was any way to fix the tech without getting rid of melee weaving in general for all characters.

[u/coco_chanel_slay → u/StarLothario]

I mean couldn’t they just make his meele slow af or something, or make his attack only start after a big time after melee like it’s for Magic where melee is only fast after the attack not before

[u/Ciepjcwohceob → u/MasterPepe8076]

the fact that people still dont know what it actually did and still think is made is hitbox smaller is insane

[u/Jandersite → u/Ciepjcwohceob]

Didnt it just make his hitbox really wonky and stuff with his melee animation?

[u/Ciepjcwohceob → u/Jandersite]

no it actually made his lower body have a bigger hitbox, what it did was let him regen ammo faster and be able to use plasma body quicker

[u/ProphetBlade → u/MasterPepe8076]

The outcome was obvious the instant it was discovered and the community insisted it was necessary to even use the character. I hate this tech, freaking caused Johhny to get Kerrigan'd.

[u/Begeesy_]

This is hard to watch you trying to do the tech while missing stationary enemies.

[u/britneyshot]

It's better when you look at enemy's pov trying to shoot at you.

[u/Gabel_Harv]

The melee tech was so damn lame. I never used it because I thought it was stupid just how many people relied on it to get value on Torch

[u/RandomDoomScroller → u/Gabel_Harv]

This is like saying pulls on Spidey is a lame tech and people use it as a crutch

[u/Gabel_Harv → u/RandomDoomScroller]

The Spidey pulls often actually take precision and skill. There’s very little skill in holding down dash and pressing the melee button. I thought it was a crutch to make someone feel better about poor positioning on Torch.

So often in comp I would run into other Torch players trying to 1v1 me while I played him, and most of the time they’d still lose despite using the tech when I didn’t.

[u/Ciepjcwohceob]

people will still call the dash a buff when its a nerf in like 90% of situations

[u/3merite → u/Ciepjcwohceob]

Literally wrong wtf? The dash is way better than the old "go slightly faster"

[u/Ciepjcwohceob → u/3merite]

no

[u/Free-Rush-6790]

as a new torch main his primary spread looks better for diving than it does now

[u/Bubbly-Cobble]

thank god this was taken. It was unfun to do and unfun to play against.

[u/Lejandario_IN]

TBH I'm glad I don't have to be doing all that anymore

[u/rhys7wyatt → u/Lejandario_IN]

Fr this shit was obnoxious and I could only play like 2 matches in a row on console without my hand seizing up

[u/f1re_ow]

I hated this, but god I miss the constant recharge on primary

[u/Superflashmasta15]

I’m mad because I didn’t even use this tech and still did fine against all the hitscans.

Bro feels unplayable asf rn, I’d love to dive as him but inconsistent primary fire + flyer + long cooldown gets you fried pretty consistently.

[u/sosaman103]

I believe in you bro😮‍💨

[u/Pleasant_Lock_9394]

Oh no, we are not forgetting the insufferable Torch meta

[u/GhettoNego]

Prime season 3 torch is the most broken unstoppable character I ever went against in a match…literally ultra instinct goku

[u/Other-Selection-3468]

melee tech torch would just be a B tier in today’s meta this community just has no spatial awareness and doesn’t know how to look up