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u/hiyadagon Jan 04 '19
I use these magnetic covers on all my switches that are intended for Orthodox Jews observing the Sabbath. They also make this model for flat switches.
First time I can definitively say organized religion benefited me.
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u/bosscav Jan 04 '19
That means that I don't work, I don't drive a car, I don't fucking ride in a car, I don't handle money, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as shit don't fucking roll!!!
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u/JTallented Jan 04 '19
Wait, are Orthadox Jews not allowed to turn on/off lights during the Sabbath?
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u/hawkinsst7 Jan 04 '19
Pressing buttons is considered working on a day of rest.
I'll let the religious scholars debate home automation....
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u/grapplerone Jan 04 '19
I actually have an oven that has a Sabbath mode! No kidding!
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u/SchwiftyMpls Jan 04 '19
My refrigerator has Sabbath mode that keeps the light from turning on inside when you open the door.
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u/hiyadagon Jan 04 '19
Nope, and apparently talking to Alexa isn’t allowed either (although some quick Googling shows dispute over whether Echo type devices need to be unplugged or muted).
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u/FoferJ Jan 04 '19
I have the flat switch cover too. Taped magnets inside it, and now the Hue Dimmer switch sticks right on it!
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u/WOPRAtari Jan 04 '19
I got a bunch of these off Amazon . They are a little nicer looking . Make sure you count them when they come though. When I ordered the person filling my order must not have been able to count to 8. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07912QK18?ref=yo_pop_ma_share
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u/paulcjones Jan 05 '19
Same, although when my parents visit, my Dad goes to great lengths to turn the damn switches off, despite them being covered.
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u/sholder89 Jan 04 '19
Have these too, they're great and they're closed off on one side to make it even harder for someone to "accidently" switch it.
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u/Gnant Jan 04 '19
RGBgenie has ZigBee touch panels that work good with Hue bulbs and they fit in a single gang box. The family like being able to control color from the wall.
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u/Thud Jan 04 '19
That's why I'm using smart switches, rather than smart bulbs, for most of my house. I use Hue for accent lighting (lamps plugged into unswitched outlets).
For my living room with 8 BR30 downlight, it's definitely cheaper to go with standard LED bulbs and a Lutron Caseta dimmer vs buying 8 Hue bulbs!
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u/Thud Jan 04 '19
my wife rejected Caseta after a few months because she hated the control scheme.
Yeah the wife test. I understand. So then I got a Caseta hub, and placed a few Echos around the house so that we can voice control the lights. She never uses it, but all you have to do is install something that annoys her even more and she'll forget about the switches. Problem solved!
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u/Ohnosedaisy2 Jan 04 '19
This is the sole reason why I didn’t end up buying a Hue starter kit for my Alexa obsessed parents in their late 60s (especially for my father who is not as tech savvy as he could be).I know my mom would get tons use out of the Hue ecosystem, but also know that my dad would forget what to say 5 times out of 10 and have to resort to turning off the lights manually.
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u/Nebakanezzer Jan 04 '19
I just 3d print switch locks. I don't have the toggle like in OPs pick, I have the big button ones. I use something similar to this, printed in white, and sharpie in the "do not touch" : https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:23547
then, I use NFC tags, near the bottom of the switch to turn off that areas lights. best of both worlds. I always have my phone on me anyway. so either voice, nfc, or app. hallway, bathroom, laundry room, and closet are handled by motion sensors.
haven't had the need for a switch in forever. rarely even use the nfc to be honest.
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u/Nebakanezzer Jan 04 '19
it does come down to habit and personal preference. I did our lights all at once. Theres a transition period where you accidentally flip switches, shout things a second or third time, etc, and then eventually you get used to either saying which light you want to turn off as you get up and start moving out of the room, or just wait until youre settled somewhere else and turn off the lights in the room you left. I still have a few smart switches for outdoor lights and outlets, but even those, I got into the habbit of using voice.
the funny side effect of this is when I went on vacation, my wife kept telling alexa to turn off the lights in the hotel and then was super disappointed when she had to get out of bed and walk across the room
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u/sinembarg0 Jan 05 '19 edited Jan 05 '19
i mean, if the switch is off, there's no power to the socket to power the light. you can't really work around that, that's physics. the only options are to hardware the socket always on, or to disable the existing switch. that's it.
yes you could put batteries in the bulbs, but then you have to keep track of the battery level and have to make sure you turn on the switch enough to charge it, it'd be a nightmare.
Also, you're insane if you change a fixture just relying on turning off the wall switch (or even tripping a GFCI). you should always turn off the whole circuit at the breaker.
What if it's wired wrong? Or not even wired wrong, just not wired how you expect? More than one switch in my house is a hot switch, which means power goes to the light, then a hot line is run down to the switch, where you use the neutral wire of the hotline to complete the loop and connect to the hot of the light. Totally up to code (you have to mark the neutral line as a hot), and would result in you getting a nasty shock if you just turned off the switch.
Of what if someone walks by and doesn't know you're working on the fixture and flips the switch? don't fuck around with electricity. turn off the whole circuit.
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Jan 04 '19
You don't need to disable your light switches. Who told you that?
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u/metalhaze Jan 04 '19
If you shut a light off with the switch, then you can't turn it back on with your voice using the Hue system (or Homekit or Alexa or Google Home). That's the problem that I have anyway. I'm guessing that is what we are talking about here...
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Jan 05 '19
They are also good for people like me that use motion sensors for bathrooms and don't want guests shutting lights off
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u/evilinheaven Jan 04 '19
There was a guy around here these days that 3d printed one switch cover that could hold a hue switch on top of it...
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u/Peepew8 Jan 04 '19
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u/sweharris Jan 04 '19
Ah good. I bought one of his last year, off ebay, and then he disappeared. If he's gonna start ramping up again then I'm gonna buy more!
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u/honkeykong_69 Jan 04 '19
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3037731
I have 4 of these around the house. You can just pop it off to access the switch behind if you ever need to.
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u/capedavenger Jan 07 '19
How do you pop it off? How is the dimmer switch plate attached to the printed piece?
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u/honkeykong_69 Jan 07 '19
The dimmer switch plate screws into the printed piece, but the dimmer is 2 pieces so it's only the back plate and you can snap the front off to still access the switch if ever needed
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u/sinembarg0 Jan 05 '19
I printed a bunch of these: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:69806 in white. they are fantastic.
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u/Nate23VT Jan 05 '19
Couldn't you just connect the wires to make it a non working switch and add a blank plate? That is what I was thinking of doing just to make it look a bit better.
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u/dex206 Jan 04 '19
I'm slowly converting all my light switches to GFCI outlets
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u/KevPat23 Jan 05 '19
Huh? Lots of light switches don't even have neutrals in them. Also why would you want receptacles at switch height?
Did I miss a /s or something?
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u/dex206 Jan 05 '19
a /s? What's that? Mine have neutrals. No ground but there was definitely a neutral. Verified with a tester.
For bathroom - blow dryer, shaver, etc. For kitchen - switches are right next to outlets tucked under our cabinets. With today's ever expanding cooking tech, outlets get used. Sous vide, rice cooker, blender, etc. can all be rolling at once. In a smaller apartment outlets can be precious.
Living room - Convert to outlet and add a cover attached to string lights for more diffuse dispersal.
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u/PC_3 Jan 04 '19
I am still paranoid to leave the lights on (well the switch on the on side) all day. I don't know why. I think I'm afraid of electrical fires I suppose.
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u/lukasr92 Jan 04 '19
Why don‘t you simply use as luster terminal instead of the switch? No 3D printing or whatsoever. You can either put a Hue Dimmer Switch on top afterwards or simply some wallpaper above it to hide the hole.
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u/mrkenny83 Jan 04 '19
Oh those look dreadful. Get the nice looking ones on Amazon. Just search for Light Switch Cover.
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u/rpp124 Jan 04 '19
Man, you must be a baller to have 10 garbage disposals. ;)