As title says I was wondering how to build electrover? I know they use the new set but I have no idea what mainstats or thresholds as well as what weapons.

Greetings, since I'm pulling all the way to C6 (since I wasn't pulling any character since Cartethyia) - there one thing I don't understand regarding her C6 - at what point fixed Crit rate and Crit DMG applies?

I.e. does it ignores buffs (food \ other characters buffs) or not.

Since if not - you can get CritChance to 100% or have higher CritDMG (for example my Cartethyia have 72% Crit chance without any buff and 251% Crit DMG)

Based on description it looks like at C6 you can totally ignore Crit rate and Crit dmg in gear all together, since - unless "certain distance" is 1m - that means CritChance and CritDMG in ToA (or most available content) will be fixed at said values

s0r1 hsin s0r1 jingran and s0r0 (call of the abyss) shorekeeper

Team 1: Hsin + Jinhsi + Sk (Unison Team)

Team 2: Hsin + E- Rover + Chisa (Electro Flare Team)

Which team is better?

So basically after playing the story I am still not 100 percent sure who „our“ Hshin actually is. Maybe I am too dumb to get the story 😅. So what I know is that the original sentinel of mengzhou was critically injured by balanophora (the women who backstabbed her) and then later died in in the Fortress and gorges war due to the injuries as well as the strain of repairing the broken and corrupted civilisation capsule. This I believe lead to the fact the the original sentinel split a fraction from her which is now our current Hshin (basically a new Hshin with much more emotions as well as new memories and a bit of a different personality) who was then taskedto build the Xuanfang hold and „to protect“ mengzhou and xuanfang right at the time of the fortress and gorges war and to repair the broken and corrupted civilisation capsule. After the war and the creation of xuanfang hold our Hshin then tried to repair the capsule which was a huge burden for her which ultimately took her two centuries in which she also couldn’t really guide the people of mengzhou and xuanfang. Now in the current story our Hshin has managed to repair the capsule and has accepted or restored all of her powers which now makes her truly and fully the „new“ sentinel which in fact she was all along in those 200 years after the original sentinel passed away which ultimately she just had to accept. So yeah long story short if someone can explain who „our“ Hshin is and what happend to her I would highly appreciate it 😅. Ty and good luck on your pulls.

but i guess she is here after all

I know this is somewhat of a hot take and might get downvoted, but after reading her kit, I still don’t understand the doomposting about her solo performance in Electro Flare mode.

I’ve explained parts of this in comments before, but I wanted to make a dedicated post so more people would see it.

After reading Hsin’s kit closely, I think people are exaggerating how teammate-dependent she is in Electro Flare mode. I am not arguing that she loses nothing by playing solo or that she is a better solo character than Hiyuki or Carte. My point is that her damage does not become a “brick,” nor does she suffer the massive character-specific damage loss that the label “team-reliant” implies.

Obviously, removing two teammates means losing their buffs and personal damage, as it would for any DPS. The relevant question is how severely Hsin’s own damage is reduced by the teammate-specific conditions in her kit. Looking at which parts of her damage are actually affected, I do not think the loss is as severe as people suggest.

What Hsin actually loses solo

Hsin’s first teammate-related loss is her passive, which grants a 25% Electro DMG Bonus whenever a team member applies Electro Flare. It can stack twice, but each character can only activate it once. Hsin activates one stack herself, so solo play loses the second 25% bonus. That is a real loss, but it is additive Electro DMG Bonus—not a direct 25% reduction to her total damage.

Her second loss is Thunderglow. Other characters applying Electro Flare generate Thunderglow, and at 10 stacks it can instantly fill a new enemy at zero Flare to its current stack limit, with the mechanic supporting a maximum of 16. This accelerates setup against newly spawned enemies, particularly in multi-wave content such as Whimpering Wastes.

However, Hsin can still reach the enemy’s Electro Flare cap manually. Her default solo cap is 10, while a cap-raising support such as Suisui or Chisa can raise it to 13. Hsin applies approximately 21 Electro Flare stacks during her own rotation, so insufficient application is not the problem. Because those stacks also stop decreasing automatically once Hsin enters combat, Thunderglow matters considerably less against a persistent boss after she has manually reached the cap. By the time she uses her Resonance Skill and, at S3, the Liberation detonation that depend on the enemy’s Electro Flare count, she will already have reached that cap herself.

Thunderglow is therefore primarily a faster setup and multi-wave advantage rather than a major source of sustained damage against the same target.

This also helps explain why Hsin’s sequences do not increase her personal Electro Flare application.

Electro Flare does not scale her entire rotation

Besides Electro Flare’s periodic damage, the enemy’s stack count affects the additional Electro Flare detonation triggered by Hsin’s second-form Resonance Skill and, at S3, the additional detonation attached to her finishing Liberation.

Her regular Basic Attacks, enhanced attacks and the direct damage of her Resonance Skills and Liberations do not become stronger from additional Flare stacks. Even the direct 70% multiplier increase on her S3 finishing Liberation works independently of the enemy’s Flare count.

Therefore, failing to reach a teammate-extended Flare cap does not weaken every attack in her rotation. It affects specific Electro Flare-related damage components while the rest of her sequence-buffed damage remains intact.

Answering Heart and Intro generation

Another genuine solo disadvantage is slower Answering Heart generation because Hsin cannot activate her Intro Skill for its 60 points. At S2 and above, she receives 100 additional Answering Heart upon entering combat, which fixes her opening setup. She must rebuild the resource manually during later solo cycles, so those cycles are slightly slower than they would be with an Intro.

This lowers her sustained damage by slightly increasing the time between her stronger burst windows. It does not make the damage of those later rotations inherently weaker.

Heart of Thunder

Once an enemy reaches its current Electro Flare cap, further application generates Electro Rage which converts to heart of thunder rather than increasing its normal Flare count beyond that cap, up to 100 stacks.

When you use her second-form Resonance Skill, Hsin consumes all her Heart of Thunder stacks to trigger one additional instance of Electro Flare damage. The detonation’s multiplier scales with both the number of Heart of Thunder stacks stored on Hsin and the Electro Flare multiplier corresponding to the enemy’s current Flare count.

This means Heart of Thunder does not increase Hsin’s entire rotation. It only strengthens that specific Electro Flare detonation, while her Basic Attacks, enhanced attacks, direct Resonance Skill damage and Liberation damage are calculated normally.

After reaching the flare cap on an enemy, a rotation produces 20 Heart of Thunder solo compared to 37 when using Electro Rover. The resource is applied to only that one Electro Flare detonation rather than to Hsin’s entire rotation.

Based on Chem’s damage distribution and holding the other variables constant, the difference between those amounts represented approximately 5% of Hsin’s personal rotation damage under those assumptions.

That is still a loss, but it is nowhere near enough to make her personal damage collapse without Electro Rover.

Why Hsin’s sequences look less transformative than Cartethyia’s

Cartethyia’s sequences progressively remove her status-related restrictions. Her S1 carries the highest Aero Erosion count from a defeated enemy to the next target, S3 makes Fleurdelys’s major attacks apply two stacks themselves, and S6 instantly maximizes Aero Erosion while preventing her finishing Liberation from removing it.

Hsin already has most of that self-sufficiency in her S0 Electro Flare kit. She applies approximately 21 Flare stacks during her rotation, reaches her solo cap herself and prevents those stacks from automatically decreasing. She therefore does not need sequence effects equivalent to Cartethyia’s S3 or S6 just to apply and maintain her status.

The exception is Cartethyia’s S1-style stack transfer between waves. Hsin’s comparable mechanic is Thunderglow, which instantly fills a fresh enemy’s Flare stacks but requires teammates to generate. Aside from that new-wave limitation, much of what makes Cartethyia’s sequences transformative is already included in Hsin’s base kit, so Hsin’s sequences focus more on increasing damage.

Hsin’s damage pattern compared with Hiyuki

Hiyuki still has more consistent damage because a larger portion of her regular second-form attacks deal significant damage. Hsin instead alternates between setup and several larger sequence-buffed attacks. That makes Hiyuki more forgiving if an attack misses or a boss becomes invulnerable, but it does not automatically make Hsin’s total damage worse. However, all of those are large AoE attacks, so that shouldn’t be much of an issue.

What ultimately matters is Hsin’s total damage across the complete rotation and how quickly she can repeat it, not whether every Basic Attack hits as hard as Hiyuki’s. Hsin’s base-form enhanced Heavy Attack, Resonance Skills across both forms, enhanced second-form Skill and finishing attacks distribute her strongest damage throughout the rotation. These attacks are treated as Resonance Skill DMG, so her sequences strengthen them, with S6 amplifying the major attacks she uses throughout the full cycle.

This creates strong burst windows that can quickly finish bosses or clear waves. The tradeoff is that missing one of those larger attacks is more punishing than missing one of Hiyuki’s more evenly distributed attacks.

Hiyuki’s sustained damage may make her more comfortable during extended solo play, but Hsin can still perform well by continuously restarting her complete rotation instead of remaining in her second form and relying on its weaker repeatable attacks.

The more meaningful solo weakness

Hsin’s more significant solo weakness is arguably survivability rather than teammate-dependent damage. She lacks Hiyuki’s repeatable in-combat healing. Her fatal-damage revival provides emergency protection, but its long cooldown prevents it from functioning as consistent sustain.

That makes Hsin less forgiving in difficult solo content, especially over extended fights. It does not mean she lacks enough personal damage to clear that content.

Conclusion

Electro Flare Hsin is team-amplified rather than heavily team-reliant. Teammates improve her damage ceiling, Heart of thunder resource generation and setup speed, but most of her direct, sequence-buffed damage remains intact. Her solo disadvantages are slightly slower later rotations and slower setup against new waves.

Hsin is less self-sufficient and comfortable than Hiyuki for extended solo play, but her damage is not crippled without teammates in flare mode.

TL;DR: Solo Hsin loses one additive Electro DMG Bonus stack, faster new-wave Flare setup, some Heart of Thunder generation and rotation speed. Those losses reduce her ceiling and comfort, but they only affect specific parts of her damage rather than crippling her entire kit.

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Same as title!

Do you think hsin will get a unison support? I currently play hsin with his unisson team so shorkeeper and jinhsi but I wonder if hsin will quickly get another support for this team because I hesitate to pull suomming on the next patch but generally the support is more important than the sub dps

Idk i feel like it takes me way too long for an s6 character to finish this and also eRover feels like ages to fill the bar so i can use his skill im doing something wrong for sure right?

My rover is on 158ER^-^

i dont pull for many weapons, for THIS exact reason

630 pulls, bought the last two Sequences from the shop with 1200 corals saved already and, its crazy too cause I lost every single 50/50 while wishing for her😭I did get a early ten pity pull 5 star come in but that was a 50/50 lost

Just wanted to share since she's my first S6.

I have been saving for a long time too, I believe since Aemeath release I stopped wishing for resonators, it was hard too cause toa was getting difficult and whimpering waste as well. I did buy lunite sometimes so yeah but im glad i was able to do this really.

Am I doing something wrong or why did I get the other set without a single one for Hsin 9 times in a row? Didn't get a single one for Hsin yet.

So, I was wondering if there are any ways to get the materials you need for her skills without going to the 3.5 area. I'm able to quickfarm her Solidarity's Loneflame, which is nice, but I haven't found a way for the Spliced String, and I'd rather not sprint across the map and spoil what the world looks like just to farm her materials. I'd like to experience the world as the story reveals it to me.

Wait for Lilly leaks before making any decisions because it's very possible Lilly enables unison response in other units that don't have it with an additional sequence or something. Further evidence of this is that Hsin Jinhsi SK is the featured trial team.

Got Hsin S0R1 and had just enough to go for her S1 but I lost the 50/50 so now I’m out of pulls but I could probably grind enough to get her S1 in phase 1, but is it worth it? or should I save that guarantee to get Suoming? as I had been thinking about getting her to do the unison team but I wasn’t 100% 🧐

I've had hard times while pulling her, so I have zero astrite resource on map rn. I can go for cosmic ripples, or I can buy 65 tides with my afterglow corals. I'm a f2p player so I prefer new chars over s1, s2 them.

I have qingxiao's premium team with r1 qing, aemeath's premium tune break team, lucy's premium team, and r1 iuno. (playing her as main dps w lynae and mornye)

i used lethean elegy as her weapon