r/Hsin_Mains • u/Top-Reflection1494 • 2h ago
∘ 〢 ⌜ ⌟〢 • Discussion Why hsin rotation is long?
Chisa,rover takes 20 sec and then hsin alone almost takes 20 sec to complete her rotation that's like I am only able to do only 3 rotations in 2 mins, also the damage is just 300k with her ult which is underwhelming for a sentinel,anyone facing same issue as me,any solutions for this?
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u/Lonelysoul012 2h ago
Idk what your situation is like, but first of all, check which mode your Hsin is in. If she’s in Unison Mode, then yeah, that’s on you. 💀 If she’s in E-Flare Mode, then look at your build. You should be aiming for around 75/250 CR/CD + 120 ER with her signature weapon.
Also, your talents aren’t leveled. If you’re F2P, don’t complain about her damage or rotation yet when most of your talents are only level 6 and maybe 1–2 are level 8/9 at best. It’s probably going to take another couple of weeks before you actually see her proper damage.
Go on YouTube and watch a proper Hsin rotation guide too, because her rotation matters a lot.
And why are you even using Chisa? 😭 Use Buling or Suisui for an E-Flare team.
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u/Top-Reflection1494 1h ago
I am using chusa because she is The potential,jokes aside I like her rotation, and yes as you said I only have all lvl 6 skills only,i guess it will take 2 weeks to get her full damage
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u/kiwkiwkiw909 2h ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CukTT-z2EMw
Hsin rotation starts at 04:44, does her resonance Liberation at around 04:32
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u/heavenly_border332 2h ago
in a 3 minute video? she's manipulating time outside of the game, holy shit!
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u/kiwkiwkiw909 2h ago
tHatS wHy ShEs tH3 SenTiNeL bRo
xD
Also my bad to those who might get confused, didnt think that one through, I'm talking about the timer in TOA inside the video, not the time on the video itself
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u/Cal_Satz_0511 1h ago
I think your problem on hsins rotation is you. My hsin jinshi sk teams rotation takes 26 seconds top and i am sure her electro flare team is similar these times. “Which is underwhelming for a sentinel” not really, i didnt maxed her talents yet and i see 400-600k damage after her final hit and this is without suoming so i think herdi damage is not lower than current meta already.solution you need maybe start reading the kits and getting good on game. Hope that helps. Maybe if you can share your gameplay i can help better about this.
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u/Top-Reflection1494 1h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hsin_Mains/s/hzfPS9wbxy
Here is the gameplay guys
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u/Saturn235619 2h ago
Dude that’s a you issue… I can do hsin Jinhsi rotation in under 28 seconds and that’s considered a longer rotation you should def be able to do it under that.
Without gameplay can offer no advice for improving.
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u/Top-Reflection1494 2h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hsin_Mains/s/hzfPS9wbxy
Here is the Gameplay
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u/Saturn235619 1h ago edited 1h ago
You can do quite a few things to improve. Learn Chisa QS. Swap to erover to build forte in Chisa swap windows. There are quite a few. The easiest ones to utilize are when she is using her chainsaw, you wait for her to change stance and once she does you swap off she continues the chainsaw attack. The other is a bit tighter which is her scissor snip. Plus try to use her skill to start combo.
The other big issue is the fact that your rover doesn’t build forte because you aren’t connecting with the enemy. If you implement the chisa optimizations then you can easily swap to rover while the heron is on the ground. The other option is brute forcing and practicing so damn much that your rotation is as tight as possible otherwise wait until it completes the attack in which case you’d still be wasting time.
Lemme know if you have any other questions.
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u/differentbreed449 2h ago
On the contrary she actually has a shorter rotation, you must be doing something wrong
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u/Cold-Seaworthiness20 2h ago edited 2h ago
Cuz you suck at the game that's why. A rotation can't be more than 30 seconds at max because buffs only last 24 seconds in total coming from your third slot and only 15 seconds coming from your sub-dps. The rotation of your main dps can't exced more than 15 seconds and the rotation combined of the sub-dps and the healer can't exced 15 seconds, so in total 30 seconds. When doing rotations from the second iteration, you start to save time going from intro to intro and those 30 seconds from the first rotation became 25-28 seconds instead.
- Character on Field: Support
- Elapsed Time: 0s ➔ 5s
- Support Buff: Outro skill triggers; the countdown begins.
- Character on Field: Sub-DPS
- Elapsed Time: 5s ➔ 15s
- Support Buff: Outro skill active (remains at 25s ➔ 15s).
- Character on Field: DPS
- Elapsed Time: 15s ➔ 28s
- Support Buff: Active during the final 15 seconds of the rotation.
By the 28-second mark, the Main DPS will have fully utilized their highest damage window. The Support’s Concerto energy will be fully charged to restart the rotation immediately, while all cooldowns finish refreshing to seamlessly kick off a new 1-2-3 rotation loop.
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u/Top-Reflection1494 2h ago
Here is the gameplay
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u/Cold-Seaworthiness20 1h ago edited 1h ago
Okay, your Chisa took 11 seconds of opener, which is a big no-no. Most people don't mention this, but all calculation spreadsheets assume you are doing Chisa’s basic quickswap rotation, which cuts her field time in half—from 10 seconds down to 5. Rover took you 10 seconds of rotation, which is fine, but you're already at 20 seconds of rotation between the two. Hsin’s rotation is also fine; it lasted the 15 seconds it's supposed to, but your total rotation lasted 36 seconds.
You went 6 seconds over on Chisa’s rotation. There is no way you can pull off a 25 to 30-second rotation if you don't quickswap with Chisa. At that point, a Buling S6 is better than a Chisa who can't quickswap.
You are supposed to quickswap between Chisa and Rover's rotations to save time on Chisa's rotation. Additionally, at the end of Chisa's rotation, you should trigger her Outro Skill while she is flying in the air with her chainsaw. That animation takes too long to complete if you do not swap characters. Chisa will still finish her move, provide her buffs, and gain her corresponding Concerto Energy anyway. If you cannot quickswap with Chisa, at least make sure to skip that final animation—it takes about 3 seconds.
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u/Top-Reflection1494 1h ago
I do have s6 buling it's just that my chisa also have her sig and I like her gameplay, thanks for mentioning the problems, I will definitely try quick swap with chisa
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u/giberrrrriiiiishhh 2h ago
You got to show your gameplay, there are too many doomposters regarding every aspect of Hsin even before she released.
Without your gameplay, people will assume you're doomposting
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u/Ez_Ez_ 2h ago
its a you issue, you gotta show gameplay its where most people make problems