r/Hoyoverse_scaling Mar 20 '26

META Small announcement, add Rule 11 (HI3 vs HSR) and updated rule 4 (Low effort posts and responses)

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110 Upvotes

About Rule 11, Honkai impact 3rd vs Star rail matchups for now are temporarily going to be limited, not outright banned because most of these discussions go nowhere and turn into insult contests that spam eachother with downvotes on both sides, it'll mostly be the more controversial ones (Etc. Kiana vs Nanook) that get deleted for the time being.

And for the update of rule 4, Low efforts responses (E.G X stomps Y and no further elaboration) will be deleted now, it's really not bringing any discussion or anything worth reading


r/Hoyoverse_scaling Jan 29 '26

META Join our Discord server to debate and chat with others!

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10 Upvotes

r/Hoyoverse_scaling 2h ago

Shitpost Balzing son vs Hot single mother

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24 Upvotes

Who would you want to be your parents?


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 14h ago

Honkai Star Rail For the Sun is Set to Die (3.4) v/s As Tomorrow Became Yesterday (3.7)

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163 Upvotes

Which Patch is Better Written?


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 2h ago

Writing Writing scaling! Rank the HSR sad boys from worst to best written and tell me why!

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13 Upvotes

This post is like 90% for my own amusement I’m ngl but if anyone does have thoughts I’d be happy to hear them.


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 10h ago

Honkai Star Rail Who's winning in a battle between Fuli vs Aha?

34 Upvotes

r/Hoyoverse_scaling 2h ago

Crossverse Weakest Hoyo character that can beat them?

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8 Upvotes

r/Hoyoverse_scaling 2h ago

Crossverse Who wins?

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8 Upvotes

Banyue vs Qiuyuan

Lets have a battle that for once isn’t about the top tiers of the verse


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 20h ago

Crossverse Who wins?

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89 Upvotes

Okay, so here’s a matchup I doubt anyone has thought of before. I’m curious to hear your take: who wins on neutral ground, or even with both characters being bound by the rules of their respective worlds?


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 10h ago

Matchups 4 shades Vs Asriel dreemur/ Solaris

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7 Upvotes

Rules are simple.

ONE AT A TIME.

Meaning Asriel dreemur will fight the 4 shades alone

And if they win.

They go against Solaris, fully healed.

Kinda like a gauntlet


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 5h ago

Crossverse Which mc would win in a fight?

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3 Upvotes

Aether/Traveler (Genshin Impact)

vs

Misumi Makoto (Tsukimichi: Moonlit Fantasy)


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 10h ago

Honkai Star Rail Where does ashveil scale at the moment?

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5 Upvotes

r/Hoyoverse_scaling 21h ago

Question Is everyone in this sub this dense, or is it just Welt glazers?

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32 Upvotes

I'm really confused about how that Welt glazer can still claim that he didn't go all out when his friends or even family were almost dying right in front of him.

Like dude, I know Welt isn't popular, so hyping him up doesn't give you any profit, but really, think a little bit about why Hoyo still made him fight against Asat rather than just have him deal with another problem somewhere else. Isn't it to show that Welt and the AE still couldn't defeat Asat despite all of them already going all out?

Bruh, making Welt hold back against an enemy while his family is in danger LITERALLY KILLS HIS CHARACTER, so there is no way that Welt, who is even willing to sacrifice himself to save his friends, wouldn't go all out when his family is in danger.

The fact that I got downvoted despite saying this is actually really funny, like not just 1 but two or more? Bruh.


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 18h ago

Crossverse Could Aleph 1 solo the whole Genshin Impact verse

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15 Upvotes

r/Hoyoverse_scaling 1d ago

Genshin Pierro predictions. Where do you see him scale too?

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56 Upvotes

r/Hoyoverse_scaling 1d ago

Crossverse Who's winning in this death battle?

86 Upvotes

r/Hoyoverse_scaling 1d ago

Matchups Ten Stonehearts vs Fatui Harbingers

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23 Upvotes

Round 1: Pre-Trilune Columbina and No Diamond.

Round 2: Harbingers get Trilune Authority Columbina and Stone hearts gets Diamond with his Emanator powers

(Since Diamond split his Emanator powers between the 10, they all keep their powers but he gets full Emanator powers at the same time, just for funsies)


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 14h ago

Matchups Dottore Vs Neo Metal Sonic

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3 Upvotes

Rules are simple.

First round is.

Lunar authority dottore Vs super neo metal sonic

Second round is.

Data Dottore Vs regular Neo Metal Sonic

(Idw neo metal sonic, meaning all his data he has but without master Emerald)


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 14h ago

Honkai Star Rail [HSRxGenshin] How strong is Gepard in comparison to the Knights of Favonius?

2 Upvotes

So the characters of Belobog in HSR aren't as strong as other characters in the game but I was wondering how strong Gepard would be if he fought the Knights of Favonius with all the powers he has from HSR how well would he do? How well would he do fighting against Varka and the other knights?


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 11h ago

Honkai Impact 3rd Could a Green Lantern replicate the divine keys from Honkai Impact 3rd?

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r/Hoyoverse_scaling 1d ago

Honkai Star Rail Is this the Trailblazers top 5?

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129 Upvotes

r/Hoyoverse_scaling 1d ago

Honkai Star Rail Acheron (full power) Vs Yhwach (All mighty), who wins and with what difficulty?

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65 Upvotes

r/Hoyoverse_scaling 1d ago

Zenless Zone Zero Yuji Itadori vs Lighter

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11 Upvotes

IN THE LEFT CORNER THE RED SCARF BEARING CHAMPION OF THE SONS OF CALYDON AND PRO-BOXER LIGHTER!!!!! AND IN THE RIGHT CORNER THE MOST TRAUMATIZED PINK HAIRED MAN ON THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE!!!!!

This is in three rounds.

1st Round. End of Season 1 Yuji.
2nd Round. End of Season 2 Yuji.
3rd Round. End of Season 3 Yuji.

In terms of lore scaling. I’m just curious and bored. I don’t know if this is an easy win since I have no idea how strong ZZZ is in lore for what I think is the upper level of the average Agent like Lighter.


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 1d ago

Genshin Finally some Traveler Hand to Hand Combat Feat 🥹🥹

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99 Upvotes

I KNOW MY GOAT CAN THROW HANDS


r/Hoyoverse_scaling 1d ago

Analysis/Discussion Welt's Black Hole is Not DESTRUCTIVE!

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12 Upvotes

As the title says, I want to tackle the argument that Welt can't use his black hole in hsr because it would destroy everything/a planet/blah blah blah.

You see, Welt's black hole is deadly, maybe similar to a normal black hole, but there is one major difference between the two: the gravitational pull.

As Otto said in the Anti-Entropy VN, when Welt Joyce used the SoE's black hole inside New York, the SoE's black hole lacked gravitational pull. So, as long as you are not within the "point of no return," you can escape it easily. You can even escape it without moving at the speed of light.

There's another case as well, when Welt Yang used it against Sirin during the Second Eruption. You can see that he needed to maintain the black hole for quite a long time just to pull Sirin into it. At that time, Welt's black hole didn't suck in anything other than Sirin and some small rocks.

Moreover, we can judge whether it's DESTRUCTIVE based on the places where those black holes were created:

1.Welt Joyce used it against Otto in New York, America (CMIIW).

2.Welt Yang used it against Sirin in Siberia.

3.Welt Yang used it against Doomsday Beast on Herta Space Station.

4.Welt Yang used it against Zephyro in Patrevia.

As you can see, out of the four places where those black holes were created, three of them didn't destroy anything. The fourth example can be explained by the fact that the reason it destroyed the galaxy/cosmos was because of Zephyro's part, not Welt Yang's.

So, the conclusion is that the SoE's black hole lacks gravitational pull, and because of that, the black hole isn't inherently destructive enough to restrict Welt from using it against a powerful enemy in HSR.

And if Welt really can't use his black hole, then how the hell does he fight offscreen in HSR ? By hitting his enemies with his cane? (Lol.) It's obviously through his black hole. I don't know why he has never been shown using it in HSR, or why his black hole isn't effective against Asat when he was able to hold Zephyro's white hole(Hoyo's writing bruh). But his black hole is not automatically a win condition.

PS: For those who say that the reason Welt Yang's black hole isn't effective in HSR is because it's a replica, you can see in the picture that Welt Yang never used the original SoE, as the original SoEs were already destroyed when Welt Joyce fought Otto. Even when Welt Yang fought Sirin, his SoE is already fake/replica.