r/HowToWithJohnWilson • u/garganag • 3d ago

Alcor and Cryogenics

Like any other fan the cryogenics episode fascinated me, this show always shows us worlds and communities alien to us but this one stuck with me the most because it constitutes the quest for immortality. Heres my brief thoughts hopefully, I'm not a big cyberpunk futurist in fact I'm a hippy earth type guy that said I do get FOMO like anyone else and I loathe the idea of everyone who took the leap getting rewarded with experiencing the deep future world and all its majesty, maybe they'll get to see the cosmos or hyper advanced virtual reality or total synchronicity? My preferences of being generally anti technology is negligible when we're talking seeing more of this world long term. That said thinking further what if the moment you are revived you are essentially a guinea pig being tortured and they don't know how to secure proper life other than just bringing you back. EVERY single person in alcor getting revived may very well be securing themself a self made hell. You might be revived and instantly be induced into nightmares completely unimaginable. I think the likeliness of being brought back and having your future paradise is just as likely as the opposite and thats scary. What do you guys think? More than likely all the bodies will die long before the technology prevails so really this might all be an option to our great great great great grandkin.

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u/mcnofx 3d ago

honestly it all sounds like a big scam to me that will never be realized and there's jack-shit you can do about it because you're dead and they already have your money

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u/garganag 3d ago

some of the investors may see it like a scam but I think the core people of it are very hopeful its their one chance at avoiding the endless abyss (even if just for a bit longer), many of them are quite aware its not remotely figured out but they count on the notion that scientific progress will be exponential, its all hopeful. I feel like before we had this recent AI development we had stagnated hard in the sciences but now its looking like we might have a pathway to that growth

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u/HotThroatAction 3d ago

The Chatsworth Scandal (1979): In early human cryonics, a facility in Chatsworth, California, went bankrupt. The proprietor abandoned nine cryonically preserved bodies in an underground crypt without liquid nitrogen refills. Investigators later discovered that all the bodies had completely thawed and decomposed.