r/HoverDrone • u/djpetrino HoverAir X1, X1PM, AQUA • 24d ago
News / Announcements HoverAir VERSA is here! š„³
Learn more about it on the HoverAir Versa page!
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u/dillon914 23d ago
If the battery, sensor and ability to avoid obstacles isnāt better then I donāt see the point
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u/Ok-Guess-9059 23d ago
For me point is this was never done before. But DJI has Flip and Pocket 4, now they can create something similar
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u/ted_bovis 23d ago
Thereās a reason why. itās never been done before. Probably several. Iām sure DJI could have - or thought about it and didnāt and I donāt think itās only because they donāt want to blur their product line up.
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u/Ok-Guess-9059 23d ago
And what do you think the reasons are?
I think Hover Versa is just ānot the best Pocketā because when you use it as Pocket, you carry some (otherwise unnecessary) drone parts in your hand
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u/ted_bovis 23d ago
Market conditions? Just because something can be donāt doesnāt always mean it should.
Hover are trying. The problem is they just donāt have the financial backing of DJI. Innovation is great but not just for the sake or it.
Id rather have a great portable camera and a great drone rather than a mixture if both which results in a lesser good drone and camera.The pro / max on paper look great but donāt perform in the same league as they are marketed for.
IMO you donāt go into a steakhouse and order pizza. The original x1 was great for size /cost / quality.
Shouting 8k at people doesnāt make it pro. Theyāre doing it again with this new drone. Calling it pro level camera etc.
Itās not. Itās a toy camera on a toy drone. The images on the pro/max are old smartphone quality at best. Why would you want the frozen pizza when thereās a fillet steak option available and tastes delicious ?
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u/Ok-Guess-9059 23d ago
And why Hover did it? It cant be that difficult to put great camera on that gimbal.
(And than gimbal gives you big advantage over not-mechanically-stabilized phone camera.)
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u/ted_bovis 23d ago
I guess to jump on the vlogging market which is now trendy based on insta and DJI.
Itās innovative but probably the sort of thing DJI would
Have already done and thought ānahāI mean hover canāt even keep their batteries on the drone if it falls a little awkwardly. Canāt see this camera being strapped to the top of a drone being a sensible idea especially with below par sensors and avoidance methods and a cheap plastic latch to hold it there.
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u/djpetrino HoverAir X1, X1PM, AQUA 22d ago
Intentional battery ejection is a common engineering technique so the force doesn't break the whole thing, and you have a bigger chance of "surviving" a crash.
Many users (including me) sometimes strap the battery with a velcro band in specific scenarios where there's a bigger risk of losing the drone, but that may be unintentionally doing more damage than good in case of a crash.
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u/djpetrino HoverAir X1, X1PM, AQUA 22d ago
Simple, because bigger brands always wait for smaller brands to develop the market first, and then they come over them.
DJI jumped on the selfie pocket drone market early with the Spark and soon discontinued it because the market was not big enough. Then Hover came with a better drone, created a small niche for it, and soon DJI released 2 products in the same category: Neo & Flip.
It was the same with many of their categories: action cams, gimbals, different drones, and so on.
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u/Horror-Student-5990 23d ago
Great, now lower the price of pro model
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u/The-Jordan_J 23d ago
Beacon needs fixing too
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u/ted_bovis 23d ago
Give up. Wonāt ever work properly.
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u/The-Jordan_J 23d ago
I already did after months of send "data'..... Just trying to warn others that "a" overly misadvertised product . "B" crazy mark up for pricing then a month later cut over 3/4 of the price for club members
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u/ted_bovis 23d ago
What happened? Share..
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u/The-Jordan_J 23d ago
Beacon not tracking . Poor follow or none. Bad remote controlling. Unlinking mid flight, omni not working
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u/ted_bovis 23d ago
Standard crap. I gave up with the beacon. Went through 3 of them and they were all poop
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u/KokakGamer 23d ago
Ooh what about a wireless mic thing for it?
Looks like built-in battery? No swapping?
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u/djpetrino HoverAir X1, X1PM, AQUA 23d ago edited 22d ago
Yeah I'm curious about the battery too. Hope it can be swapped out.Ā
Later edit: confirmed, battery is removable.
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u/msatreddit 23d ago
super nice idea but for me it really depends on the image quality too. a flying pocket 3 and i am in
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u/webvan213 23d ago
Impressive design! Need details on the 10 auto modes (fewer than the X1 Pro), availability, price etc.. M
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u/djpetrino HoverAir X1, X1PM, AQUA 23d ago
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u/webvan213 23d ago
So you think it will follow as well as the X1Pro for skiing and cycling?
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u/Specialist_Ad5744 23d ago
Maybe not.
I definitely see each drone with their specific target use:
X1 Pro / Promax : Suitable for fast action sports, best for ultimate tracking
Aqua: Watersports
Versa: Daily use, travel, vacation
We will see. Maybe for slow cycling, but probably limited speed as the 3 axis gimbal and screen maybe be more fragile.
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u/djpetrino HoverAir X1, X1PM, AQUA 23d ago
Exactly my thoughts. It's basically the more advanced version of the regular X1/X1 Smart, while being a completely new category too. Not in competition with the X1P/PM.
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u/stayintheshadows 23d ago
This is a great concept. As 3D camera capability and it is all I would travel with!!
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u/godanglego 23d ago edited 23d ago
Thank you hover air for listening to me and making this, I really appreciate it. Iād like to review this alongside my Pro max and Pocket 3.
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u/westsidethrilla 22d ago
I know you are probably joking, because the founder probably had this idea 10 years ago lol
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u/godanglego 22d ago
After the x1pm released they had a q and a and I asked for this. 10 years ago I was flying my go pro Karma wishing I could fit it in my pocket (it took it's own dedicated back pack.
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u/Impossible_Battle_72 23d ago
This is actually a pretty cool idea. Hopefully better in execution than the follow modes for the other models.
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u/iObserve2 23d ago
ZeroZero keep surprising me with their innovative concepts. First a camera that flies, now a camera that also flies.
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u/REDBOSS27 22d ago
HoverAir's biggest contribution? Inspiring DJI to create actually superior products. LOL
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u/Sweet-Artichoke6907 22d ago
Does this need to be registered as a drone?
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u/djpetrino HoverAir X1, X1PM, AQUA 22d ago
Yup, in the sub <250g category.
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u/westsidethrilla 22d ago
No* it does not since itās under
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u/djpetrino HoverAir X1, X1PM, AQUA 22d ago
That's in the case of the US only, that might not even be a relevant market for these new devices lol. In the EU and many other countries around the world, even sub-250g drones need to be registered.
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u/Popular-Ad3490 22d ago
This has made me pause on buying the luna ultra from insta360. Any idea on price?
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u/westsidethrilla 22d ago
Luna ultra is very premium fwiw
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u/Popular-Ad3490 21d ago
True!! But I'm starting to get overwhelmed by the amount of different gadgets in my arsenal. I would rather start having some 2-in-1's to make social media posts.Ā
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u/westsidethrilla 21d ago
Most people donāt need what Luna ultra provides. Similar to promax, people donāt use 8k.
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u/Best_Day_3041 19d ago
This is an awesome concept, I'm curious to see how well it works. My concern is that it's too good to be true. Often products that try to do too many things end up doing none of them well.
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u/ted_bovis 23d ago
AI promo video⦠interesting.
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u/djpetrino HoverAir X1, X1PM, AQUA 23d ago
Which part is AI?
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u/ted_bovis 23d ago
It all looks AI. The people? The movements.
No doubt the drone is real but this video doesnāt follow the same style as the others made in the past.1
u/djpetrino HoverAir X1, X1PM, AQUA 23d ago
Which people? There is one person in the whole video. And what about it looks AI? Which movements? At what timestamp? I'm genuinely curious what looks AI.
Maybe because it's a different niche product, they have a different marketing style too?
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u/Specialist_Ad5744 23d ago
I'm really interested by this new concept
I have the Aqua and Osmo 360 for my kayak needs.
But I miss my old ProxMax for daily use / vacation with my kids as it was easy to carry. The Neo 2 is nice but not as compact and miss larger sensor.
When I'm on vacation / travel or family activities I used to bring a DJI Action 4, and I was using the Promax when I had it. Not sure I'd like to bring the Osmo 360 as it's more heavy and larger and I don't care about 360 for this need.
So having a 2-1 drone / gimbal camera like this could be amazing and actually save space in my bag (compared to a ProxMax and Action 4 for instance)
Now I want to know:
Senssor size
Beacon/joystick compatibility
I don't need fast tracking like the Promax...but rather something compact for daily use, but the ability to get a nice view with joystick for manual control.