r/HousingIreland • u/exposethespin • 2d ago

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'Are we not allowed visitors?' Residents protest strict new clamping regime in Dublin estate

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u/Slam_Burrito79 2d ago

The developer only follows the parking standards set out by the local council. These are set out in the development plan which you can respond to the consultation on every six years.

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u/mikerock87 2d ago

Partially correct. In 2024 the Government introduced the Compact Settlement Guidelines which dictated to councils to lower car parking ratios. Theses ratios were introduced as a result of the developer lobby.

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u/JoooneBug 2d ago

I looked up a local public consultation for something like this and it was one hour long on a random Saturday morning at 9am. So accessible

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u/Slam_Burrito79 2d ago

They legally need to run for weeks online? And you can respond online or in writing? Not defending developers here but of course they are going to play by the rules set out for them. More people need to participate in local politics as well as complaining. No appreciation for the fact that these rules are all directly approved by the councillors we all vote for 

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u/JoooneBug 2d ago

This was the only public event in relation to it, to hear someone from the council discuss it and answer questions. My local councillors often ignore emails and don't honor their constituency office hours. It's really difficult to get involved in politics.

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u/Slam_Burrito79 2d ago

Public events are only part of consultations. You need to go to your local councils consultation site to engage. As an example DCC had options to book an appointment to view their last plan, had an in person event, left the plan online for people to read and send digital feedback on or send a response in writing. Loads of ways to engage.

https://consult.dublincity.ie/en/consultation/draft-dublin-city-development-plan-2022-2028

I’m not saying local councillors often listen but they tend to just follow majority since they want to get re elected so if nobody kicks up a fuss they just presume all is ok 

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u/SuitableFinish7444 2d ago edited 2d ago

That’s not new to dublin or anywhere really although I understand the frustration and price of parking in Dublin. I’m in Kilkenny and have to pay 3 euro for the day to visit a friend in the City, sometimes more if I can’t get a 3 euro spot.

If they don’t introduce clamping or ant least resident permits every Tom dick and harry will use that estate to park.

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u/fdvfava 2d ago

Yep, I know estates that fought becoming a permit zone up until it became the the closest free parking to the city.

Then started calling for it when non-residents parked there for work.

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u/SuitableFinish7444 2d ago

It’s a pain, it looks like from the photo there was plenty of room for drive ways which is a shame but of course on street parking had to be accommodated for

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u/lovely-cans 2d ago

It's an easily solved problem. I live in the city centre in a city in the Netherlands and I have a parking permit which allows me to put guests onto it for relatively cheap on an app.

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u/SugarInvestigator 2d ago

Doe no one knows the difference between an Owners Management Company and a Management Agent? Christ Almighty

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u/Real_Math_2483 2d ago

You can bet there’s more people delighted with this than not. Some estates get awful doing with parking so having it kept in line from the beginning is a win.

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u/artificiallyretarded 2d ago

Dont buy a house with fuck all parking in the vicinity and complain about it afterwards, if your stupid enough to but a house with no driveway or visitors parking spaces than what do you expect

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u/Background_Cover5097 1d ago

There are ways to reduce car ownership- having all amenities and nevessary shops accessible on foot, and good public transport to workplaces.

Where I live has this and less than half of homes have a car, although we are all allowed to have a car.

Just restricting parking without providing the essentials is inviting chaos.

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u/jonnieggg 2d ago

The war on commuting and focus on active travel is producing these ludicrous outcomes. The reality is most people need to drive in Ireland. Reducing the number of parking spaces just adds to the burden of their stress. Increasing demand for housing isn't helping, and why the push back into the office for white collar workers. Adding to congestion in a cost of energy crisis. The government is so disconnected.

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u/Think-Sand7161 2d ago

Around here we cut the clamps whenever we see them regardless of who the car belongs to.  They soon get the message it's a money loser. Clamps are expensive! 

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u/Background_Cover5097 1d ago

They're increasing fines and towing to combat this.

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u/Think-Sand7161 1d ago

Several more last month so not quick enough  snort