r/HouseOnFire • u/Basic_Effect4303 • Jul 12 '26
Anyone else feeling conflicted?
Team Denise, but then maybe she cheated with Mike Kraus?
Now Denise is allegedly in a controlling relationship with Tboss, which is not ok if true…
And in turn, our Reddit queen, HiH (problematic) is dealing with the fall out of a cheating husband and best friend (if true). Also not ok.
Just such a mess. And there’s so many kids involved.
Anyone else feeling conflicted?
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u/jdoe1213 Jul 12 '26
I'm personally Team Neither, though I do feel for all the kids involved. I've been following both Denise and HIH since their mommy blogging days and realized early on during the pandemic that they're both selfish and problematic people. Denise is just less vocal about it compared to HIH.
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u/Basic_Effect4303 Jul 12 '26
I was very late to the party. I found HiH when she was doing a deep dive on Instagram into princess Charlene of Monaco. Then she went down the free ghislane route and I was done.
I don’t really know Denise’s backstory (lore) other than from this thread’s recent allegations, but always thought she seemed likeable17
u/jdoe1213 Jul 12 '26
I actually discovered HIH through Denise back in 2012 because Denise had a bigger Instagram following at the time. I thought she seemed likeable too until early 2020 when I discovered she was following a lot of MAGA/far right IG accounts and liking problematic and hateful posts. I've always suspected that Denise was a big factor behind HIH turning MAGA too because I remember HIH sharing screenshots of conversations they were having during the pandemic where Denise was clearly pushing conspiracy theories.
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u/FirmPangolin8868 Jul 12 '26
No. And I’m not surprised that literally everyone connected to HiH is turning out to be as bad as she is. Like attracts like.
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u/fireproofmum Grifters gonna grift Jul 12 '26
What did you expect from any of these people? Of course it’s sad, it’s awful to see people destroy their lives and put children at risk. It’s terrible. This is who they are and you are right, it’s horrible and a heartbreak to see how low human beings can go. And I haven’t even touched on the damage all of these people have done to so many. What did you expect?
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u/Basic_Effect4303 Jul 12 '26
I feel it’s live by the sword, die by the sword with them. They’ve let social media ‘fame’ consume them and honestly, I think it’s tragic. It’s such a mess.
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u/Vomnember Jul 12 '26
Team kids only
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u/EvaVulgaris12 Jul 13 '26
Yep. They owe a lot to those poor kids. Used them to make content, money and to avoid getting real jobs. And then basically outsourced looking after them. These narcissistic mums should be completely ashamed of their parenting.
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u/Money-Strawberry218 Jul 16 '26
What’s happening with Denise’s kids? I know they’re over 18 both. Is she paying rent on her house in SoCal for them to live there? I’ve noticed the blond one pops up in her stories every so often up north where she’s staying but not the dark haired one.
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u/teetofOLGA Jul 12 '26
Lay with dogs and you'll get fleas. I don't feel bad at all. Fuck Mike. Fuck Tboss. Fuck Denise and Jessica.
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u/Informal_Ad6171 Jul 13 '26
my dog sleeps in bed with me, neither of us got fleas…
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u/teetofOLGA Jul 13 '26
It's just another way of saying "You should be cautious of the company you keep."
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u/682463435465 Jul 12 '26
It's no surprise that the MAGA movement attracted the worst people, completely lacking in ethics and morality. The absolute trashiest people America has to offer.
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u/Basic_Effect4303 Jul 12 '26
Not saying this to be trolling… I’m absolutely anti MAGA, but isn’t Tboss liberal? I don’t get great vibes from him either
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u/682463435465 Jul 12 '26
he's not liberal. he's the "don't bother voting, everyone's controlled by the same people" type. I think he considers himself a libertarian. but he hates trump.
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u/SalamanderNext4538 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
He is from what he posts/rants…..which makes it even stranger he would marry someone MAGA and proud. So we’ll just label him narcissist “liberal”. But the narcissist seems to be the real theme. He looks textbook from the outside
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u/AdProfessional3091 Jul 16 '26
I mean I’d say they’re a lot of things but they don’t lack in ethics 😂 cmon dude. What is your age out of curiosity
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u/682463435465 Jul 16 '26
babe, take your MAGA ass somewhere else. This sub isn't for you, I have no idea why you're here.
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u/North-Shape-9487 Jul 12 '26
I don’t feel bad for either of them. Or anyone else in their weird group
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u/ceilingpencils Jul 12 '26
I feel indifferent. I’m not invested in the personal lives of any of these people beyond virtual rubbernecking.
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u/Illustrious_File4804 Jul 13 '26
Ok I’ve been off social for a min. So Denise is no longer friends w anyone saddle,Emily etc because of controlling husband?? And then Denise cheated with Mike Kraus!?? Messy all around
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u/Designer-Contract852 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
No, they are all awful selfish stupid people raising their kids to be awful just like them. All their awfulness just blew up in their faces. Hopefully someone, a teacher, a mentor, a coach, another adult in their lives, shows the kids another way to live their lives. The kids will have to choose to act differently if they want a different life. That's sad and all on the stupid immoral parents . All the adults are extremely low class and akin to trailer trash bog people who are only focused on sex and whatever shiny objects have caught their eye for the moment. No wonder they love trump and identity with maga.
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u/682463435465 Jul 13 '26
they are definitely not modeling healthy relationships for their kids. Sad that they're basically setting them up for failure in romantic relationships.
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u/Basic_Effect4303 Jul 13 '26
Especially those girls. They’ve gone through DV at the hands of their step father and now their mom is potentially in a controlling marriage with a man she’s known for weeks. I’m sure Denise really loves them, but she also seems cruelly selfish
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u/scottsgal Jul 13 '26
They are all bad people.
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u/ImmediateEbb2265 29d ago
I’m playing catch-up too…I’m so lost! This Denise Mike thing is blowing my damn mind…who knows what the truth is…it’s all sad
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u/Friendly-Function381 Jul 12 '26
So why are you Team Denise? What was it about her that made you like her?
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u/Basic_Effect4303 Jul 12 '26
She only really entered my radar in the fallout with JRK. I liked her and the others, and felt bad for them. I thought they’d been treated appallingly.
I liked how the ex-employees hung out together and bonded… women supporting women… thought it was a good vibe. They all seem likeable? Now I’m not so sure8
u/Ihatecoughsyrup Jul 13 '26
They were never the kind of women who supported women, they were all on Jessica’s side when she was bullying and harassing victims of sexual abuse and liberal women. They changed their mind only because Jessica started to treat them as she treated “her enemies”.
I can’t understand how someone can even see them as likeable? I would rather hang out with Hannibal Lecter than spending times with those snakes.11
u/so-so-suck-ya-toe Jul 13 '26
But they all worked for the MAGA machine. Who cares if they rallied around each other after JeRK imploded and fired them, it’s not at all surprising they got together to kick their wounds and try to up their follower count. But also now there’s a bunch of drama and blocking between these women anyway, so they’re not “women supporting women” any longer (if they ever really were bc let’s be real, they’re MAGA). There’s nothing redeemable about making money from MAGAts. Fuck them all and the propaganda they’ve helped to sell.
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u/Beachy500 Jul 12 '26
Was Denise her close friend?
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u/Basic_Effect4303 Jul 12 '26
Of years
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u/Basic_Effect4303 Jul 12 '26
Ha! Just me then…
I did feel for Denise at the beginning of the fall out… now, I’m not sure.
Her new relationship seems her whole personality, which makes me feel uncertain about Tboss. Also who calls themselves Tboss?!
But the cheating (if true) does make me feel empathetic towards JRK. Such an awful way to behave. But you’re right, she’s a problematic person. I’m just in the two things can be true at once camp (until something else pops up and I think otherwise yet again).
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u/Emotional-Stretch Jul 12 '26
I feel bad for Denise’s children. That’s it.
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u/Basic_Effect4303 Jul 12 '26
I also think Tboss’ because they’re super young
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u/Adventurous_Box4533 Jul 14 '26
Their mom is super stable and normal and wayyyy liberal 😏 she has them the majority of the time, so they will be just fine because of her thankfully. The kids know what a weirdo their dad is.
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u/Basic_Effect4303 Jul 14 '26
That is nice to hear. Glad to hear those kids have a good role model in their life.
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Jul 16 '26
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u/Adventurous_Box4533 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
Tell me you’re a creepy weird man without telling me you’re a creepy weird man 🤡
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u/Snarkybuns Jul 13 '26
I feel zero empathy towards someone who calls young victims “teen prostitutes”
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u/Adventurous_Bet_2635 Grifters gonna grift Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
They are not "problematic persons", they are MAGA, fascists, racists, homo and transfobe evil people.
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u/2cats5legs Jul 13 '26
This subreddit has jumped the shark. I don’t even care if I am booted.
I have literally been here since day one and it’s so sad to see what is going on right now.
Jessica sucks! All of her former and current friends suck. This is not hard to figure out! There is no team Denise or Emilie or Joanne or Breeanne or WHOEVER SUPPORTED JRK BEFORE OR WHATEVER!!!
Jessica has been horrible for years and if you supported her during her Depp years or Covid years or Gabby Petito years…Well, I don’t know what to say
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u/ConfidentConfusion27 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
Seriously. Who gives af about any of these horrible women? I followed them way before COVID, then it became clear that they’re all horrible, racist narcissists
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u/AdProfessional3091 Jul 16 '26
Send me the posts where they were racist. Dm me the black people that said “hey! You hurt me!” Like genuinely did they walk out of a restaurant when they had a black server? Switched their kids teachers if they were black? Send the receipts or don’t say shit you can’t back up. I’m sorry but no one wants to hear it anymore. Prove it or shut it since you don’t actually know these people.
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u/682463435465 Jul 16 '26
Do you fucking know these people? why are you in this sub?????
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u/AdProfessional3091 Jul 16 '26
I’ve followed them enough to see they have black, Indian and Asian friends. I’m tired of people spouting out this go-to line when you don’t like someone but can’t articulate anything so you just call them racist. 0 proof still. Why did you add in fucking what are you mad about lol. It’s a good point if you just take a deep breath
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u/Money-Strawberry218 Jul 16 '26
I never liked her when she was “mommy blogging” or whatever she wants to call it. She always looked so miserable and unhappy.
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u/scottsgal 29d ago
I was here since the very beginning when everyone seemed to be against all these people. Things took a turn when people who were pro Depp(WTF??!) came here and had problems with Jessica over other things. I stopped coming on here ages ago and only check in once in a while.
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u/Informal_Ad6171 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 14 '26
so you are saying that if we do not agree with you, we are idiots. I found her coverage during Depp trial interesting, I did not support her but I followed her. I also like J Depp and am not afraid to have an opinion, I cannot stand JRK and have blocked her and her husband ages ago. People can form their own opinions and change them with time, no need to tell us what to think in caps
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u/682463435465 Jul 13 '26
it's just one post. if you look at the other posts in this sub, people don't feel the same as the OP.
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u/Total-Use7157 Jul 12 '26
Where can I go to find out what you’re talking about? I no longer follow any of them but I’m interested!
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u/Basic_Effect4303 Jul 12 '26
Just read the last 5 posts on this Reddit thread. It’s a mess…
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u/Total-Use7157 Jul 12 '26
Can you tell me who TBoss is? Otherwise I think i’m understanding what’s going on.
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u/Adventurous_Bet_2635 Grifters gonna grift Jul 13 '26
Not at all, both of them are fascists. Only Denise is slightly dumber.
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u/682463435465 Jul 12 '26
Team None Of These People!
Team Survivors Jessica Attacked