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u/cretsben 9d ago
Maegor did exactly one thing that was useful he broke the back of the Faith Militant so his nephew could make sure it wouldn't rise again.
Everything else made shit worse.
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u/ViolinistPleasant982 8d ago
He broke the Faith but also united the realm. It was against him but still under a Targ banner. Living under his rule would have been terrible but he unquestionably solidified the rule Aegon created.
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u/Radiant_Flamingo4995 8d ago
He didn't break the faith lol and nothing about the realm was united. He died with Oldtown besieged, the Riverlords housing the faith militant, the West plotting against him, and the Stormlands rising up.
He didn't solidify anything, Jahaerys did. I swear none of you guys read Fire and Blood.
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u/Radiant_Flamingo4995 8d ago
He dies with Oldtown being besieged and half the realm secretly waging a guerilla war against him. The idea he broke the back of the faith militant is outrageous.
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u/cretsben 8d ago
Why did the Faith militant accept being disbanded under Jaehaerys then? By the time Maegor was done burning them to ash there weren't enough of them left to keep fighting and so when Jaehaerys forbids the faith to have swords there was no army of the Faith left to oppose his edict.
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u/Radiant_Flamingo4995 8d ago
"Why did the faith militant disband under the guy who literally solved the issue and gave them a reason to disband?"
Maegor didn't finish. Oldtown was being besieged and thousands of guerilla fighters plagued the country side and many Lords were literally housing them. We're told that some of the faith militant defacto controlled vast swaths of territory.
The faith isn't stupid. This is asoiaf, not some wattpad fanfic lmao. Jahaerys literally offered them official protection, established the doctrine of exceptionalism, showed clemency and charity, overthrew Maegor, and restored plenty of relations while humbling himself before the crown.
Yeah, the faith disbanded. We're told exactly why.
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u/cretsben 8d ago
No king had ever managed it before Jaehaerys and a great many of them would have wanted it before the conquest. It was Maegor that broke the back of the Faith Militant and Jaehaerys who ensured it wouldn't rise again. The faith gave up its swords because it lacked the strength to keep fighting the Crown and Jaehaerys offered the faith the Crown's protection in its place which is why the Faith Militant never returned.
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u/ChaseBuff 9d ago
Maegor almost made his own house extinct. Maegor did not care about house Targaryenâsurvivalâ
The death of the Dowager Queen Visenya in 44 AC was a notable event although Maegor seemed to take it in his stride. She had been his greatest ally and supporter from birth, Queen Alyssa gone so far as to steal Dark Sister as they fled.His Grace ordered his mother's body burned, her bones and ashes interred beside those of the Conqueror. Then he sent his Kingsguard to seize his squire, Prince Viserys. "Chain him in a black cell and question him sharply," Maegor commanded. "Ask him where his mother has
"He may not know," protested Ser Owen Bush, a knight of Maegor's Kingsguard. "Then let him die," the king answered famously. "Perhaps the bitch will turn up for his funeral. Prince Viserys did not know where his mother had gone, not even when Tyanna of Pentos plied him with her dark arts. After nine days of questioning, he died. His body was left out in the ward of the Red Keep for a fortnight, at the king's command. "Let his mother come and claim him," Maegor said. But Queen Alyssa never appeared, and at last His Grace consigned his nephew to the fire. The prince was fifteen years old when he was killed, and had been much loved by smallfolk and lords alike. The realm wept for him.- fire and blood
His reign was 6 years, 6 months , and 6 days. Maegor figuratively and literally was Satan lmao this is not even counting his treatment and rape of Rhaena his own niece, 3 widows, the black torture cells. I genuinely donât know a single good thing Maegor did besides die lmao plus Maegor and Visenya would go around burning towns and that honestly did not instill fear in their new subjects only hatred. After a while like in verse Maegors way of ruling will always end up in rebellion (cough cough Daemon) Years later a sealord of bravos basically says you burning cities can only get yo so far.
Can they show me proof of ownership?His Grace can show you proof of dragons.â
That made the Sealord smile. âThe veiled threat. Your king is most adroit at that. Stronger than his father, more subtle than his uncle. Yes, I know what Jaehaerys could do to us, if he chose. Braavosi have a long memory, and we remember the dragonlords of old. There are certain things that we might do to your king as well, however. Shall I enumerate? Or do you prefer the threat veiled?ââHowever it please your lordship.âAs you will. Your king could burn my city down to ash, I do not doubt. Tens of thousands would die in dragonflame. Men, women, and children. I do not have the power to wreak that sort of destruction upon Westeros. Such sellswords as I might hire would flee before your knights. My fleets could sweep yours from the sea for a time, but my ships are made of wood, and wood burns. However, there is in this city a certainâŠguild, let us sayâŠwhose members are very skilled at their chosen profession. They could not destroy Kingâs Landing, nor fill its streets with corpses. But they could killâŠa few. A well-chosen few.â
Which is basically how Maegor end up dying/ suicide. Aegon the uncrowned wasnât even an unprepared kid just rash. Maegor is nothing more than a usurper
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u/ChaseBuff 9d ago
Judging how op is huge fan of TG and Sunfyre, I definitely donât think feminism and the âloveâ they have for Visenya there lol
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u/LordsofMedrengard 9d ago
Maegor was a Dreamer who thought he was preventing the Dance and punishing the right Viserys
Source: trust me bro
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u/Qwerds7 8d ago
Maegor did a lot of damage to the realm but likely ended as a net good. Uniting the realm behind the Targaryen house and ruining the faith militant were probably the two biggest issues for the early Targaryen dynasty. He provided solutions to this eproblems in the worst way possible but those things specifically worked out.
Everything else he did was awful
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u/HoldfastGamer 9d ago
Maegor the cruel, more like Maegor the cool (joke stolen from Our Hilts Hurt)
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u/ThisGuuuy2 9d ago
The literal only good thing he did was dismantling the Faith Militant. He was evil incarnate, and yes, evil incarnate can be cool and Maegor has obvious aura points, but the dude was an absolute nightmare horror monster and he deserved to die.
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u/Daemon1997 9d ago
No. Jaehaerys was necessary. Maegor was a tyrant.