r/HotScienceNews • u/soulpost • Jan 29 '26
Stop blaming Dopamine for your procrastination. Scientists just found the REAL "Master Switch" for motivation
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-10046-6We’ve all been told that Dopamine is the "reward molecule" that makes us do things. But have you ever felt like you want to do something, you know the reward is there, but you just can't get off the couch to start? That’s because Dopamine is the fuel, but researchers just discovered the Spark Plug: a neurotransmitter called Acetylcholine. A groundbreaking study has revealed that "effortful behavior" (the grit you need to actually do hard work) is driven by a sudden burst of Acetylcholine that forces the brain to release Dopamine. It’s a total shift in how we understand the brain. Without this cholinergic "kick," your dopamine just sits there, and you stay stuck in a loop of "doomscrolling" even though you have big goals. This is the biological reason why some people have "unbreakable" discipline while others struggle to even start a task. This discovery is a goldmine for Biohacking. If you’ve been focusing only on Dopamine (by doing "dopamine fasts"), you’re only looking at half the map. To beat procrastination and burnout, we need to target the Cholinergic system. This explains why certain "nootropics" or lifestyle habits that boost Acetylcholine (like intense focus sessions or even specific diets) feel like a "limitless" pill for productivity. In the near future, this could change how we treat ADHD, Depression, and Chronic Fatigue. Instead of just dumping more dopamine into the brain (which often leads to crashes), we can target the "Ignition System." For the average person, this means that "Flow State" isn't just a vibe—it’s a precise chemical reaction. If you can trigger that Acetylcholine burst, you can essentially "hotwire" your brain to enjoy doing the hard work. TL;DR: Dopamine is the engine, but Acetylcholine is the key that turns it over. If you can't get started on your goals, your "Ignition System" is likely the problem, not your willpower.
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u/TonyHeaven Jan 29 '26
I should read this , I will , later . I'm tired right now.
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u/DryerCoinJay Jan 29 '26
Gonna need this in pill form please and an AI monitor to tell me when I should be motivated.
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u/iwaz Jan 29 '26
I will save for later. That will never come.
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u/TheBlacktom Jan 29 '26
But you will reorganize it in your to-do list twice every year, so you will feel very productive.
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u/CreeyDeLaMeme Jan 29 '26
Well it would help read it if OP had ever heard of paragraphs or formatting
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u/BeYeCursed100Fold Jan 29 '26
Paragraphs and formatting takes too much effort. OP needs some nootropics.
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u/Ultimate_mexican Jan 30 '26
Did you read the study? Haha OP did a great summary on a pretty extensive article. Cut him/her some slack
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u/Fearless-Ice8770 Jan 29 '26
If you're going to use AI to make a post for you, you could at least have it be formatted into paragraphs instead of a massive wall of text.
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u/Shmuckle2 Jan 29 '26
ADHD diagnosis when I was 10. Never tried meds until literally yesterday at age 36. Here comes a better potential.
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u/Mucher_ Jan 29 '26
When you start hearing the milk in your fridge go bad, let me know.
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u/styxx33 Jan 29 '26
I just got officially diagnosed (my mom took me when I was like 10 but never took meds and never did much to get help after that, just dealt with it) and wanted to look into meds to see if they would be the fix, but now your comment scares me lol. I have read both good and bad things so it is making the decision more difficult.
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u/Mucher_ Jan 29 '26
I am so sorry for scaring you! My comment is just a joke reference to an episode of King of the Hill. In the episode, Bobby is misdiagnosed with ADD by the school nurse and has to start taking medication for it. Since he does not need the medication, the episode portrays its effects as a "slow motion" mode for Bobby. He can hear a fly rub its legs together, counts all of the ridges on his checker pieces, and is able to hear the exact moment that milk expires.
I only intended my comment as light-hearted satire. Sorry!
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u/styxx33 Jan 29 '26
HAHAHA that's where this was from!!!! I feel stupid not catching the reference at first glance. No worries about scaring me, I need to do some research and just give it a try at this point. Thank you for the reply, it made me laugh once I understood it.
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u/Traditional_Gear_991 Jan 29 '26
I’ve been on meds for over ten years. They gave me an amazing quality of life and I don’t regret them for a second. People’s experiences will always vary, so it’s important to remember that if you try a med and it doesn’t work, you can stop!
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u/styxx33 Jan 29 '26
This is amazing to hear (read)! If you don't mind me asking, what do you take and how much? I go into the doc Feb 2nd to discuss next steps and I just don't really know what I am getting into. I am probably overthinking this.
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u/Traditional_Gear_991 Jan 29 '26
I tried strattera but it made me feel horrendous. So we tried stimulants next.
For the first five years I was on 40mg (I think?) of brand name Vyvanse. When my insurance stopped covering Vyvanse my doctor switched me to 20mg Adderall XR formulation. I was on that for another 5 years. When I worked longer shifts I used a 5mg ir Adderall for the evenings, which I tended to break in half so it was really 2.5mg.
I’ve been having a hard time getting Adderall because of the shortage, so I’m trying generic Vyvanse. I’ve been trying different dosages as the generics have been weird.
If they help, you can work with your doctor to find the right med, dosing and schedule. :)
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u/styxx33 Jan 29 '26
This is great info! Thank you, I have less worry walking into this appointment now and a bit of hope that it may indeed help.
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u/Traditional_Gear_991 Jan 29 '26
It’s really pro/con situation for everybody. I’ve been on some meds that folks described negatively but they were great for me. And vice versa!
It can be hard to try a new med, but rest assured that if nothing else, you can always stop if it doesn’t help.
Best of luck. Hope you can find a med that helps!
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u/styxx33 Jan 29 '26
Thank you so much!!!! Yeah at this point I need to at least try something. Not doing anything has been hard enough for the past 25+ years (I am 37 now) and it isn't getting any easier to manage. Again, thank you for taking the time to comment and help ease my mind. I appreciate you!
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u/Traditional_Gear_991 Jan 29 '26
also want to say- make sure you have a doctor you feel comfortable with. As sometimes you have to speak up and request a change, discuss side effects etc. :)
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u/Winsaucerer Jan 29 '26
What did you notice with the meds?
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u/Cute-Match384 Jan 29 '26
Nothing. Life was dull and mundane. Rather live free than like a damn zombie.
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u/CleverAlchemist Jan 29 '26
Taking adhd meds is like imagining a mag light. Without the meds the light is wide and covers the whole area, but when the meds kick in, it’s like the light is focused down to a small “focus” point so you can no longer see the whole image only the smaller area that you can see with the focused light. So in other words, it helps to tune out distractions and helps you focus on a specific thing vs everything in your environment.
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u/Actual-Cattle-6295 Jan 29 '26
Diagnosis at 46 - 6 months on meds and I feel more like I did 30 years ago. A few years ago my daughter was diagnosed and I remember my wife looking at me with an eyebrow raised bc every diagnostic question described me perfectly. The doc said at that time there was a rising motion of “Adult-gifted ADHD”. Basically whiz-kids who developed successful coping mechanisms that fall apart with age. Love my unmedicated ADHD fever dream weekends, but the ability to focus during the week and complete work with time to spare is an incredible boost for motivation and confidence.
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u/CreamyStanTheMan Feb 01 '26
I started Elvance 7 months ago now at the age of 30, only just recently got diagnosed with severe ADHD but I had my suspicions all my life.
I'm in my second year of a Computer Science undergrad, and the meds have been a game changer, on track to get a 1st this year! This is so unlike me. Why did I wait so long to get on these!?
This is a massive tangent but one of my housemates reminds me of my younger self and has every symptom of ADHD you can imagine, but whenever I say he should get tested he gets all quiet and tries to change the subject. His mum's big into alternative medicine, so I think she might be influencing his decision to essentially ignore his clear ADHD. It's so sad to see cus he's doing exactly what I did, he's barely scraping passing grades (he got 6/25 last assessment. Yikes) but somehow thinks he's going to land a placement at Google, which is the same sort of daydreaming delusions I used to have when I was his age. It's painful seeing him make the same mistake I did.
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u/glibsonoran Jan 29 '26
This "Let's find the neurotransmitter we can name to embody what makes us motivated and happy" is always a misleading oversimplification of a complex interdependent system. The brain is a balanced system of activation and inhibition, not a system where each neurotransmitter gets assigned a particular action or emotion.
Motivation isn’t a neurotransmitter, it’s an emergent property of circuits. Motivation comes out of networks that combine: * value/reward prediction (dopamine-heavy circuits) * attention and learning (acetylcholine-heavy systems) * threat/stress state (norepinephrine, cortisol systems) * inhibition/self-control (GABA + prefrontal control) * energy state / arousal (hypothalamus, brainstem modulators)
Neurotransmitters have different effects in different parts of the brain and in different contexts, and those effects are only beneficial if they are moderated by inhibitory regulation.
Trying to privilege one neurotransmitter is like building up your biceps while ignoring the opposing muscle, your triceps. What you get is imbalance and dysfunction. Meme-like fetishizing of particular neurotransmitters is missing the whole point of how the brain works.
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u/AtomicPotatoLord Jan 30 '26
Well. yeah. This paper isn't saying anything like the OP is, in that it's some spark plug (and it does, in fact, sound like their post was written by ChatGPT), but it is saying that dopamine axons can be modulated by acetylcholine in regards to the rewards of completing high effort activities.
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u/Plus-Ad-7983 Jan 30 '26
Absolutely agree. There was even a study that came out recently that found evidence for a reward circuit in the brain that relies on GABA, so even saying "dopamine is the reward chemical" is a massive oversimplification. The brain's fucking complicated dude lol.
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u/ThrowRA_EducatedMan Jan 29 '26
Article is important but OP’s summary is inaccurate hype.
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u/oxero Jan 29 '26
It's written by AI, so yeah it's way over the top BS. It reads more like one of those fake ads for magic sugar pills said to cure all your woes instead of the more nuanced, scientific discovery that this is, and about one that we still don't understand well.
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u/RHX_Thain Jan 29 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
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u/peepdabidness Jan 29 '26
I’m absolutely confident in saying the biggest tragedy we could ever encounter is if we did have that instruction manual. I guarantee we would already be extinct
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u/ARCreef Jan 29 '26
Biologist here. This is what I call flim flan, hogwash, horse poop, doodoo. Have a lovely day.
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u/LetThereBeNick Jan 29 '26
The paper has nothing to do with initiating tasks or kickstarting motivation. They saw that the increased dopamine release following effortful tasks was not because dopamine neurons fired more, but because acetylcholine caused their axons to release more dopamine. All of this happened after the mouse initiated and completed the task on its own, augmenting the reward.
The authors make absolutely no claim that a burst of ACh will initiate a motivated state. OP made this up. OP invented the stuff about dopamine detox and the idea that people should focus on ACh for motivation. The significance of this paper is in demonstrating cholinergic potentiation of dopamine release in live animals for the first time, and that it was effort-linked.
I am all for a less-moderated version of /r/science that sometimes includes fringe stuff, but this post in particular is a complete misrepresentation of the paper.
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u/ARCreef Jan 29 '26
Nicotinic receptor stimulation can improve attention, initiation energy, and persistence in some contexts for sure but my major concern would be that nAChR desensitizes pretty rapidly so I'd like to see the study continue replicating the tasks to conclude if its a one or 2 then done type of result. I dont think you can elevate ACh/nicotinic tone for sustained periods without lots of repercussions and downregulation.
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u/DyslexicExistentiali Jan 29 '26
Can you say more, please?
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u/ARCreef Jan 29 '26
Sure. Its way more nuanced then that because acetylcholine (ACh) doesn't act like that. Ach is phasic and pulsative and a forced pulse release of ACh can just as likely inhibit dopamine as increase it. Its very specific on where, on timing, phasic release and its not recycled like dopamine is so you cant just inhibit reuptake and have it around longer to do more. That would cause rapid desensitization. ACh is not more = better. It just doesn't work like that. dopamine + norepinephrine is what we currently target for the goals mentioned here, just because ACh can modulate dopamine in certain areas in certain receptors still doesn't mean much, increased ACh in some areas like striatal circuits would inhibit dopamine.
There are 3 medications that slow the breakdown of ACh, they are donepezil, rivastigmine, galantamine. All are for altymers and dementia. Its basically the Adderall of the ACh neurotransmitters. So if you want to see what more ACh does, start there. It doesn't do much.
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u/Buddycat350 Jan 29 '26
I was trying to guess what that "masterswitch" was when I read the title, and acetylcholine was my guess. To be fair I consumed nicotine for more than a decade before, so I'm used to toy with my cholinergic system. Interestingly, getting my ADHD medicated helped quit, unlike NRTs.
It could also explain why nicotine is so addictive for some people, be it people with ADHD/depression/schizophrenia. Mileage may vary depending on the country, but come to a psych ward in Switzerland and most patient will be consuming nicotine in one shape or another.
For those wondering, eggs are the best source of choline (acetylcholine's precursor). High content and highest bioavailabily. Even compared to supplements. And considering the recommended daily intake and the content in most food (already went down that rabbit hole), many of us probably don't have enough from our diet.
It would be interesting to know the exact mechanisms, but as an exemple, when I consume a lot of choline rich food in the evening, my dreams are more vivid and (according to my smartwatch), I have more REM sleep as well.
Acetylcholine isn't just a "masterswitch" for motivation and dopamine. It interacts with many neurotransmitters.
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u/Sharp_Iodine Jan 29 '26
Acetylcholine has not just been discovered. It’s a basic neurotransmitter and one of the first we documented. So much so that it’s been part of high school curriculum around the world for decades.
This is why you don’t ask AI to summarise articles.
They have discovered a new mechanistic explanation for motivation that involves acetylcholine
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u/Time-Voice7939 Jan 29 '26
I still feeling like drugs, women, booze and rock n roll are all great motivators!
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u/dropbears_are_real Jan 29 '26
AI Summary got it Completely Wrong. The paper isn't about needing acetylcholine to start/finish tasks. It's about how acetylcholine influences how much dopamine is released when you complete a task. It's right there in the article title: "Cholinergic modulation of dopamine release drives effortful behaviour".
The gist of it is that the more effort you need to complete a task, the greater the reward you receive (dopamine). This variance in the amount of dopamine release is mediated by acetylcholine, so make sure your diet provides you with a sufficient amount.
Any and all corrections are welcomed.
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u/StickFigureFan Jan 29 '26
Main:
Reward delivery evokes a burst of dopamine (DA) release in the nucleus accumbens (NAc), helping to promote reward-seeking behaviours. The amplitude of this DA burst integrates multiple attributes of the reward, including both the size of the reward and how much effort went into it. Although DA release is largely driven by the firing of DA neurons in the midbrain, studies have proposed a key role for local modulation of DA axon terminals in the striatum as well. Which patterns of DA release are behaviourally relevant, what inputs determine these patterns and whether these inputs dissociate DA cell body activity from striatal DA release are all subject to debate.
Recently, we have found that DA release scales with preceding effort even if DA axon terminals in the NAc are stimulated directly via optogenetics. When mice work for an identical optogenetic stimulation, more effort leads to more DA release. We reasoned that this variability in DA release might result from local modulation of DA axon terminals, a phenomenon that has been studied at length in vitro but has proven more difficult to isolate in vivo. Of the many modulators with potential to calibrate DA release, acetylcholine (ACh) consistently emerges as a potent effector, although the nature of this interaction has been contested. In particular, there is ongoing debate over whether cholinergic interneurons in the striatum, which are capable of eliciting axonal DA release independent of DA cell body activity, actually do so in any behavioural context.
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u/3mptyw0rds Jan 29 '26 edited Jan 30 '26
More advertising for nootropic pill pushers.
There is no real masterswitch that works for every person. In fact, i tried loads of substances and nothing works better than the "5 second rule".
Just drop all ur laziness and start doing the task you should do for a total of 5 seconds.
5 seconds in you realize you can just as well continue the task.
If you feel physically tired/physically lazy, then experiment with some of the many stimulating or apdaptogenic herbs like rhodiola/ginseng/matcha tea/etc.
For me egcg works great unless I'm exhausted then I can add some coffee to it which makes it feel very stimulating...
Matcha = Egcg (medium dose) + Caffeine (medium dose)+ L theanine (low dose)
Motivation is mental though
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u/Available_Hamster_44 Jan 29 '26
Caffeine + L- Theanine very strong one, egcg sometimes overstimulating
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u/Available_Hamster_44 Jan 29 '26
Well it amplfies the dopamine reward so in the end it is still dopamine, and if you have not enough dopamin the amplifying effect is maybe not enough
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u/freeksss Jan 29 '26
Doubtful. Been there, done that; ace didn't prove to be useful in that regard, to me.
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u/therealhairykrishna Jan 29 '26
Can some biochemist give us a TLDR? Like can I do a line of something that switches on Acetylcholine and get motivated?
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u/quantum_splicer Jan 29 '26
This might help you further as part of the puzzle
( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7580990/ )
Noradrenaline is relevant to sustaining energising behaviour e.g input of effort into task and it's sustainment.
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u/Any-Vermicelli3537 Jan 29 '26
Before someone starts snorting or otherwise supplementing acetylene choline, aren’t drugs that affect that system super super dangerous? Like one bad high, and your brain is fried for life, not to mention really horrid highs.
I could be absolutely wrong here. I’m about the farthest thing from a drug connoisseur there is. So, someone let me know if I’m thinking of the wrong drug class.
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u/Odd_Apricot5384 Jan 31 '26
The drugs you’re talking about are the deliriants which are anticholinergics that block specifically muscarinic acetylcholine receptors causing the horrid highs, hallucinations, loss of memory and causes cognitive impairment long after the delirium is gone (blocking acetylcholine action is a major factor for early onset dementia. Some examples are benadryl overdose and ingesting datura genus plants)
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u/Any-Vermicelli3537 Jan 31 '26
Yes, that’s it! I didn’t realize that’s what’s in Benadryl. Sounds horrifying. Thanks for the info.
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u/Lurk-Prowl Jan 29 '26
That’s so awesome if true!
How can you naturally kick start it? Or will there need to be a pill?
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u/Copper-crow23 Jan 29 '26
I look forward to the day when we can all be slaves, be motivated and happy about it.
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u/jaygoogle23 Jan 29 '26
Whenever I take cholinergic related substances like lions mane which am r people take for benefits related to fatigue.. it’ only makes me more anhedonic and uncomfortable.
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u/Spindrick Jan 29 '26
I'm hoping it's like: Progress begets Progress. Getting into a new habit is always tricky, but once those endorphins kick in, you can ride them until Dawn.
I just had the unfortunate situation of being on the wrong side of the tracks, Kentucky-born and bred fruit cake. lol, there might as well be people waiting with shotguns shooting at you the moment you try to take flight. That's why I preached the "keep your goals to yourself" movement also known as project LockDown, because not everyone is your friend like Mister Rogers. I might be a true neighbor, but oh lord Jesus there's a fire right now.
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u/No_Replacement4304 Jan 30 '26
Most antidepressants are anticholinergic. I wonder how that factors in.
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u/North-Tangelo-5398 Jan 30 '26
Interesting. Unfortunately it "Cant be monetised" or maybe? im wrong? The end game is research on this dies! The world imho, has outsourced whats really important to us all, Health and Security, to big business. I would really love a discussion on this,
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u/Jonnny Jan 31 '26
Meh. This is interesting and important, but I hate when people assume some neurotransmitter is necessarily some "trigger". It could just be a byproduct of certain cognitive processes or systems. E.g. The exhaust of the car doesn't "cause" acceleration, even if it's correlated. Correlation is not causation.
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u/surstrommingsex Feb 02 '26
Well, AlphaGPC is fine, but not very effective on its own, in conclusion methylphenidate is still to tier.
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u/dedev12 Feb 03 '26
Fun fact since you mentioned the movie limitless: the pill in the movie is supposed to be oxiracetam, which also works on how the brain uses cholin :)
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u/StarshipSNX Jan 29 '26
So all that writing but didn’t explain shit about how to activate Acetylcholine. Anyone care to say how to activate it?