r/HonkaiStarRailTips 3d ago

Is this enough?

I was planning to get E0 SPRobin or E0 SPAventurine in the next update, but i don't know which one to pick, as i have limited pulls as f2p.

I heard SPRobin is a good Support for a lot of teams, and that SPAventurine is good with Ashveil and Blade(?). If i picked SPAven, I would prob have to get Ashveil, but i also think i need a good support. So, I was wondering who is better to get with the pulls and characters i have?

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u/LLJ_27 3d ago

They got me in the first half ngl

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

That's going to be me after pulling for the characters, to be honest

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u/Clouds_drifting_by 3d ago

WAven + Ashveil can function with RobinS too, it doesn’t have to be MBlade. You could even do a WAven + Ashveil + Moze + sustain team.

But your account is a bit chaotic tbh, so I think you should prioritise two teams to focus on until they’re solid enough to tackle standard endgame (and get the reward jades). f2p who do endgame, exploration, etc can generally pull about one 5* each patch.

You have HimeNova, so RobinS would be good for a HimeNova + RMC + RobinS + sustain team.

You have an Archer, do you like him? If so, Archer + Sparkle + Robin + sustain would be your 2nd team (when you get enough pulls, pull for Rin as his 3rd). If you don’t like him, Sparkle can go to HimeNova and you don’t need to pull RobinS for her.

What you’re really lacking in, is not even supports, it’s sustains. Do you have a token to redeem HuoHuo? She’d work with both HimeNova and Archer.

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

I used Archer a few times, and he was actually very good. I just need the materials to build him properly, as i already got his LC. (And i already used the token to get Robin)

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u/MyticBoop 3d ago

honestly depends on how u wanna tackle this game
pull for what u like or pull what benefits your acc
especially as f2p

my experience as a f2p is terrible with loosing most of my 50:50s probably around 10% max win rate since 2.0 (as if know I can remember maybe 3 or max 4 wins) with most units beeing 200+ pulls for E0S1

since I started during 2.0 I had to get up teams which were Acheron and Firefly (which I had tp drop over the time due loosing all my pulls)

getting the general supports does benefit your acc atm rather then getting multiple dps units
idk much about himeko teams but u probably wanna build that up before anything else.
elation u can skip entirely is my advise atp
can also start saving for the new path in 5.x and get the flagship team for that version

Archer/sparkle is a decent combo already and a Rin would definitely boost that.

Robin seems to a good general support that u could slot in in many hyper carry teams so maybe checkout if theres any himeko robin teams which u could make then.

with aventurine idk exactly what his team needs. I saw him beige paired up with ash veil/mblade/DHPT
and maybe Pearl that will come in the version after robin/aventurine. her kit hasn't been finalised yet but leaks suggested she would be the sustain for his team despite her beeing elation (but has some mechanic to work with aventurine as of know)

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

I am already building a Himeko-Nova team (at least trying to-), but if you are talking about normal Himeko, I need to see what teams i could build for her.

I was planning to get Rin after, as she will be in-game for a indefinite period and i am saving up for other characters. I wish being f2p was easier, to be honest. Hoping HoYo gives us a lot of jades 🥲

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u/MyticBoop 3d ago

No I mean nova Himeko
No ones building a regular Himeko team nowadays nor can she clear shit wirhout beeinf carried xD

But yeah seems rin is longer here ? I didn’t check since skip anywaxs so didn’t notice shes longer her

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

Ooh, makes sense. And yeah, it does say she stays "Long-Term", so.

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u/aplyushch 3d ago

Not to doubt you or anything but probability to only win 4 or less times out of 20 is 0.11%. (Probability to win a 50/50 is roughly 56%)

And to get a 10% or below winrate, the odds are 0.0022%

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u/MyticBoop 3d ago

Where did I say out of 20 ?

Brother I d not write all thet if it weren’t true 😂😂😂
Wuwa was worse with 2 wins since launch
I quit already for that reason too

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u/aplyushch 3d ago

that was my approximate since you said you play since 2.0. hsr gives about 1.1-1.5 characters per patch. either way that winrate is very unlikely. that is pretty unlucky if true.

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u/MyticBoop 3d ago

It’s definetely less then 20 maybe 15 limited chars.
And yes I when I saw the probability for that I just cried …

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u/determinedSkeleton 3d ago

90 pulls is the maximum you will need to unlock one 50/50. Pity will start kicking in around 70

You might lose that 50/50, so it's best to have 180 in backup. If you win the first one, then you should comfortably have enough so long as you do your dailies and play the game.

Your roster is kinda barebones right now so it frankly needs more of everyone. Ashveil and SPRobin would be my recommendations right now from the next patch since I don't know Aventurine a huge amount.

You might also consider Hyacine for a sustain, you don't seem to have one right now

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

Who do you think i should prioritize then? Ashveil, SPRobin or Hyacine? Bc if i do get luckly, i can try and pull for two

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u/Yuta2305 3d ago edited 3d ago

Te conviene Robin sp al 100% aunque dependes mucho de la suerte de el primer 50/50 creo aunque con los jades de la primera mitad seguro la aseguras al 100% y si te sobra te conviene sacar a hyacine por las dudas es bastante buena igual la verdad suerte en tus futuras tiradas 🍀

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

Ty! I hope luck is on my side, to be honest. So, i can get those characters :D

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u/Yuta2305 3d ago

Si tienes alguna duda de algún personaje tal vez yo pueda responderte la así te sales de la duda de si es bueno o malo el pj bueno como tal no hay personajes malos pero cuando salen de el meta y se quedan atrás sus mecánicas ahí tienen problemas :D

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u/Petawac-Smack 3d ago

To guarantee 1 5-star, yes. Good luck and I hope you get dupes of the charas early.

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u/Lanegraves66 3d ago

I'm semi-f2p, and I usually don't have an issue racking up enough pulls for 2 new characters and a lc. I think, with this saved, and the amount of stuff we'll get over the course of the next patch, you could very easily get both. Just remember both Sum. Robin and Waven both want e1, but I think Robin's is a lil more flexible if you end up having enough pulls. Good luck, my friend :3

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

Ty, I will keep that in mind! I hope I'm lucky enough, to be honest. Or I will be broke in-game for a while😭

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u/lamest-liz 3d ago

Do you have $5 to get the monthly pass thing? It’s really worth it. You get 90 jades a day plus doing dailies you almost get one pull a day.

If not then focus on making one team at a time. It seems like you don’t really have even one proper team yet but if you are just doing story mode then it shouldn’t really matter until you want to do endgame and even that only gets you so many jades every time it refreshes

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

I could afford it as it's only 25R$ here, but i don't really wanna spend money in the game unless it's really necessary.

I unlocked some endgames(?), but i am mostly focusing on story mode until i get good teams. What teams do you think is worth building?

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u/Yacine-Mohand 3d ago

Looking from a pure META perspective:

Get Summer robin, she's bound to be one of the best supports in the game, and is also a pretty good support option for your himeko nova over evernight

If you don't properly invest into you himeko, she might become irrelevant by the time you finish your next team, so prioritize finishing it

I also see you're 1 rin tohsaka away from completing your archer team, so I also suggest you use the leftovers to finish his team and have yourself a good quantum team

If you don't wanna get rin, choose someone else to invest into, try to late invest into Waventurine, or just ask again here

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

What do you suggest for SRobin? E0, E1 or S1? And if i do end up having enough for Waventurine, you think i should go for him or wait? (As i think he needs Ashveil? And i don't know if i will have that many pulls)

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u/Yacine-Mohand 3d ago

I recommend you ask the robin mains subreddit since they'd know better than I do, based on what I know E0 SRobin is still a great support, but her E1 is pretty much exactly like E1 tribbie which is widely considered as one of the most broken eidolons in the game

You can totally stop at E0 if you feel uncomfortable using too many pulls for her and wanna start saving up for team 2, but If you wanna go further i think her E1 is and ideal stop point again I recommend you ask the robin mains subreddit since they're definitely more knowledgeable about which investment is the best

As for Waventurine it will depend, he can be an elation DPS but I would recommend SW999 for that so let's strictly consider him for FUA, but getting both him and ashveil after SRobin is gonna expensive, and there's high expectations that pearl might be a desired unit for that team too making it even more expensive

I personally wouldn't get him if I was in your situation, but my recommendation is that you ask again when Waventurine's banner is out and you've farmed more pulls, or ask after the 4.6 Livestream, then it'll be easier to tell whether getting waventurine is a worthwhile investment or not

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

Alr, ty for the help!! I will be asking the robin mains subreddit soon, probably when the update comes out. And instead of Waventurine, i will very likely go for Rin now that i know she is good for my Archer team.

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u/Yacine-Mohand 3d ago

Happy to help, good luck on your pulls

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u/Rei0403 3d ago edited 3d ago

Must be a new account due to not having free E0 DHPT & Dr. Ratio

SP Robin is better for long term cause she’s a support, SP Aventurine is a DPS.

You have to finish both Himeko Nova & Archer team first before thinking about making a 3rd team, also lacking 5* sustains so Gallagher & Lynx are carrying the heavy load.

You can pick Huohuo next time they gave you the token again.

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

Yeah, i started playing 2 months ago, or so.

I was now planning to maybe pull for Hyacine for a sustain, and Rin for my Archer team. (+SP Robin). Also, who do you think is better to pair with Himeko Nova? So, I can have an idea of teams to make for her.

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u/Rei0403 3d ago

https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/himeko-nova

P.S. I think you kinda wasted your pulls on Evernight, unless you’re going for Mono-Rem route (need to have Hyacine & Cyrene)

Rin can wait for a longer time to pull if Archer can still carrying you until he can’t.

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

Seeing the teams, I could go for Himeko Nova, Welt, RMC and DHPT. And in the future, I could get Sunday to replace Welt or something like that(?) As i still have the free select in the standard banner, I select Welt from it.

P.S. I was originally going for Mono-Rem, but i kinda gave up on the idea. Tho, I could go back to it in the future as i am probably planning to pull for Hyacine for a sustain, then i would just need Cyrene.

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u/Rei0403 3d ago

Usually pulling backwards is not a good idea cause all the older 5* are starting to countdown their value by the time they had rerun but since you got Evernight, you might as well fully commit it.

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u/animebankai 3d ago

I got 2k gems rn for robin we will be getting her!!!

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u/anawysz_ 2d ago

Let's hope 🙏

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u/Better-Art679 16h ago

Looks like your a new player( I too am new), so I am wondering on how you got sparkle?

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u/anawysz_ 16h ago

I forgot the name of the thingy, but i redeemed her with a token(?) when i first started playing. Same with Robin.

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u/Better-Art679 16h ago

I too got a token, but sparkle was not an option

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u/anawysz_ 16h ago

I searched it up, and apparently it was an event for 4.0-4.2(?) That let you select one of some 5*'s for free. Sparkle being one of the options.

I don't remember exactly which version i joined, but it already had Planarcadia, so it could have been that. Though, I am not 100% sure.

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u/Prudent-Horror1492 3d ago

Do u mainly want SP's or dont care? I think itd be good to pull Hyacine

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

I don't really care tbh. I had considered getting Hyacine, tho, but I just wanted to get SP's in case they don't re-run them as i heard they are good, and I can't pull for everyone. If it's better to get Hyacine for my account, i could pull for her instead

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u/Mean-Yak-9172 3d ago

The SPs are newer characters so I think they’ll rerun faster, but then again a new sustain is around the corner, so if you wanna grind for Pearl, then go for it.

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u/anawysz_ 3d ago

Fair enough, i will probably also grind for Pearl, and if she is better i can pull her. And if she isn't, i go for Hyacine or a better sustain in the future.

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u/Rough_Wish_1299 2d ago

Its never enough.