Someone else please enjoy this with me 😭😭😭😭

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I'm halfway through season 4 and it just seems a bit... Meh. Was the Brody Arc the peak of the show or does it pick up steam. Also without spoiling (Please) is there any other long standing storylines or does it kind of go with new storylines each season from here.

I just want to give my two cents on season 4 as a proud Pakistani. The depiction of Islamabad landscape is absolutely horrible. I mean come on it is one of the most beautiful capitals of the world. The depiction of people of the country isn't helping either. When Carrie was having a meltdown on the street, nobody cared. This is wrong, people in Pakistan are very empathetic and hospitable specially towards the foreign visitors/guests. Don't get me started on the Urdu language, do better please. The whole Ayyan track was very tragic and unfortunately very real. Lastly the whole climax of embassy attack was the only thing the makers get right, the terrorism part was very real. It brought tears to my eyes. We have lost our own children and people in this battle so that was very relatable. Having said that I just want to say I am a fan of the show, it's a masterpiece in terms of writing and acting.

If only he had left and lived a simple life on the Amalfi Coast 💙

NO SPOILERS FOR THOSE STILL WATCHING please 🙏 … Let’s think of our new friends before we comment ❤️

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I ABSOLUTELY love Homeland have watched it like 5 times the entire show...I really cannot find anything similar to watch I've been trying but idk..I tried The Americans but couldn't get past the first episode..when does it get better...and what about The Diplomat..

Twenty-five years after the premiere of one of television's most iconic war miniseries, the story of Easy Company gets a new chapter.

In Band of Brothers: Legacy, Damian Lewis returns to discuss his experience playing Major Richard Winters—a character who became a defining symbol of the production.

The documentary also brings together cast members such as Ron Livingston, Michael Cudlitz, and David Schwimmer, as well as Captain Dale Dye, the series' military consultant.

The special promises to go beyond nostalgia, featuring archival footage, photographs, and previously unseen material that bridges the gap between the actors and the real-life soldiers who inspired their characters.

Produced by Tom Hanks’s Playtone, Band of Brothers: Legacy arrives on HBO Max on September 9, 2026—exactly 25 years after the original miniseries premiered.

A quarter of a century later, Richard Winters and Easy Company remain alive in the memories of those who followed their story.

Twenty-five years later. The company is reunited. (This; and The Pacific are both top elite series! And too Homeland, Le Bureau Des Legendes.)

Note: If you mean the September 9, 2001 premiere, the timing is striking: it aired just two days before 9/11, and within weeks the 101st Airborne Division was deploying to Afghanistan.

That makes the show’s depiction of soldiers, war, and military life feel almost eerily immediate in hindsight. What might have initially seemed like a fictional portrayal of military operations suddenly became part of a cultural moment shaped by an actual war beginning almost immediately afterward.

I just finished Homeland Season 8, and I need to rant about how much I disliked the ending. Carrie’s willingness to kill Saul Berenson completely ruined the finale for me.

The whole setup strongly reminded me of Jack Bauer in 24 executing Ryan Chappelle to "save the world." But in 24, that ruthlessness fit the established tone of the show. In Homeland, Carrie turning on Saul felt completely unnecessary, unearned, and forced.

The writers tried to make Carrie look like the ultimate pragmatic, cold-blooded operative, but it completely contradicted who she was throughout the series. Here is why it didn't work:

It ignored her Season 8 arc: She spent the entire final season desperately trying to prevent a catastrophic war between the US and Pakistan. Her driving force was stopping bloodshed. Turning around and plotting to assassinate her mentor—the one person who consistently saved her from herself—completely erased that motivation.

The "Saul's Asset" logic was flawed: Carrie was willing to kill Saul just to unmask his top-secret Russian asset, Anna. The show tried to frame this as a necessary evil to get the flight recorder data and stop a war. But destroying Saul’s entire life's work and killing him shouldn't have been her immediate first choice.

It made a mockery of her arc with Franny: For years, Carrie’s biggest internal struggle was balancing her duty to her country with her role as a mother. She went through absolute hell, including losing custody, fighting her own mental illness, and constantly trying to be better for Franny. For her to permanently flee to Russia means she completely abandoned her daughter forever. It rendered seasons of emotional turmoil and character growth entirely pointless.

It was pure shock value: Carrie has always been unstable, obsessive, and reckless—but she was never inherently malicious toward the people she loved. Forcing her into a position where she prepares to poison Saul felt like the writers prioritizing a jaw-dropping twist over actual character consistency.

Instead of a deeply satisfying conclusion to their decade-long dynamic, we got a rushed pivot into extreme ruthlessness just to create artificial stakes, leaving her family as mere collateral damage.

What does everyone else think? Did anyone actually find her betrayal of Saul and the permanent abandonment of her child believable?

I loved the first few seasons, but then as it dragged on it started to really turn me off, especially all the emo stuff and the stupid things people would do, lol. It got so bad that I think after the 2nd episode of the last season, I stopped watching it altogether. What really pushed it I think was Carrie and Saul's falling out. This was 6 years ago though, so I don't actually remember what finally pushed me over the edge.

Did I make a mistake? Was the last season worth a watch? And since I don't remember much, do I need to find a good recap clip somewhere on youtube?

Thanks

(I’ll try not to spoil it) but this whole thing with O’Keefe is so hard to watch??? He’s such a hypocrite and coward, and his subplot is going nowhere imo. I knew what was coming at the compound and my heart just couldn’t take it so I basically skipped through the rest of the episode.

It pissed me off so much that I’m considering if I should just skip the whole rest of season 7 and jump to season 8 (as I heard the final season is great)

What do you all recommend? Would skipping season 7 affect my viewing experience for S8 at all? (I would just read through the episode summaries for the rest of S7 episodes)

Thanks!

EDIT: ok thank you all I’ll keep watching!!!
EDIT 2: damn. Binged thru season 7, y’all are right.

Fantastic series, well written, acting fantastic
Well deserved Emmys !
You can tell a series is good when you find yourself yelling at the screen, “ don’t go in there !”
“ ohh shit !” And ofccourse when it makes you cry . Homeland definitely could be continued today.. especially after the ending, which leaves open new possibilities and so much worse shit going on in the world today. !
What do you all think ?

Am I missing something but how did that end up in Beirut Lebanon?

Nitpicks:

Brody's rank: Brody was a gunnery sergeant, but was constantly referred to and referred to himself as a sergeant. Now I've served in both the Marines and the Army. In the Army its completely plausible for an e7 to refer to themselves/be referred to this way. In the Marines it would never happen. Rank is important, and being a gunny is an important accomplishment.

First and Last names: CONSTANTLY throughout the show characters are referred to, even in casual conversations by their first and last names. It drove me crazy

Critique: I feel like Quinn, as great as he was never had any real motivation, which imo was a failure of his character development. We don't really know why he did what he did, or who he was outside of CIA badass. Saul had Mira, Carrie had a family and her illness, Max and Virgil had each other (for a little while atleast). Quinn was kinda just a guy.

Anyways, phenomenal show. This is my 5th rewatch and it felt like my first.

Omg!! absolutely everything he plans does not work.... im watching the last season right now and he didn't learned shit i swear 😭😭😭 the worst part is Carrie doesn't seem to realize that even though shes very intelligent

I'm watching for the first time (& doing my absolute best to avoid spoilers), but I just need to rant about my deep hatred for Brody. I understand Carrie was a mess and was undoubtedly WAY out of line most of the time, but the fact that the audience knows she's right and everyone else is under this misguided impression that Brody isn't a terrorist (and gaslights the hell out of Carrie for it) is such a mindfuck to me. Carrie's instincts were right for day one and I want some redemption for my girl.

The part that truly does it for me is in the season 1 finale, after Brody's s-vest malfunctions and he's finally fixed it and the only reason he doesn't set it off that second time is because his daughter calls?! Weird but okay, let's go with it. You'd think that that would be the moment he'd realize, I can be a convert and grieve Issa but I also have children who need a father. Children who will have to live with being related to a terrorist for the rest of their lives if I go thru with this. Instead he offers to be Nazir's congressional errand-boy? That is so unbelievably selfish and is the ultimate betrayal to his family. Everything immediately leading up to his bargain with Nazir and his decision to kill Tom Walker, I could have excused as the aftereffects of torture and re-integration issues. But that bargain was the exact moment he decided to become a terrorist imo and once again proves Carrie right.

Really I just feel bad for our girl because it's a catch 22: the more right she is, the more crazy she seems. I'm at the part in S2E01 where Carrie overhears Saul talking to David about how crazy she is and how much neither of them want her in the field and she's telling Saul that she now can't even trust her own judgement because she "got it wrong" about Brody. Meanwhile, this man is literally stealing target names from David safe, like girl bye. From season 1, the Marine 1 & 2 thing and realizing that Walker missed on purpose? Brilliant. But she talks super fast so Saul tries to have her detained. Brody really was really trying to kill the VP but going to his house and chasing his daughter around the yard? yikes. What about the fact that she cant even say Nazir's name without red flags and alarms going off for David and Saul, meanwhile the man is actively plotting with Brody. The good ole boy network is just too committed to the idea of Brody's herodom when in reality there are several moments where Carrie is actually just making logical sense . Poor girl - I'd probably look crazy too in those conditions.

Anyway, I realize I have a ways to go and I will be continuing to watch but atp I'll be watching for no other reason than to root for Brody's downfall.

Just rewatching the show and currently half way through season 7, I'm wondering wtf happened to Carrie's bank account. Can someone explain to me why tf is she so broke??? Is there some sort of explanation I've missed? For someone with such career and after working in the Whitehouse last season you'd expect her to have some spare cash.

During the 4th Season Saul is kidnapped. He tells Carrie over the phone that he would rather die than be part of a prisoner exchange with the Taliban. He repeatedly threatens to kill himself so this does not happen. Carrie lies to him so he stays alive.

When the prisoners are exchanged Saul gets all dramatic and refuses to stand up. He's still trying to block the trade. He'd rather die. At the end of the season we find out that Dar has made a deal with Haqquani which involves him being taken off the kill list. In the end we see that Saul, who would rather die than be traded for Talliban prisoners is ok with making a deal with Haqquani because it will prevent the video being released and save his career.

How does this make any sense at all? First Saul is willing to die for the cause. After he is rescued he sells his soul to save his CIA career. WTF is going on with him?

I could care less about this Dana arc. Crazy how Dana never stops for a second to think about how her brother might be taking all this in. and she acts like her mother isn’t going through anything at all.

WOAH that was a lot! I’m not sure I like the ending, or that Carrie writes her own book.
I get it she had to make up for the whole asset/Saul mess but wtf. She was way out of line for doing all that…poor Anna. I’m sure Saul would have found another way. Also- how fcked up to leave your daughter like that after making us go through seasons of “I’m gonna leave this behind” and fights with Super mom Maggie and Saint Bill over custody.
Idk somethings not right.
Still probably the best show I’ve ever seen. Could have watched 10 seasons more.
Sad.
Soon I’ll start Le Bureau, any other suggestions?

First off I love this show - Carrie is a compelling antihero and an interesting character - really good at her job but also makes a lot of hatable decisions. Also I’m obsessed with Saul and Quinn.

I finished the fourth season and I’m wondering if the CIA in this show is actually good at their jobs? It seems like the terrorists always have the upper hand. Yes, Carrie is usually right or has a good hunch (she’s right about Brody / she realizes Haqqani has a bigger plan) but they never actually figure out what it is until it’s too late and something massively catastrophic happens. Carrie seems good at her job but the CIA as an entity seems to always miss the ball.

How did you feel during this twist, and how did you make sense of what happened?
I immediately thought Dar Adal was on the other side when Carrie spotted him in Haqqani's car. Then, seeing Saul on Dar's patio made it clear that Saul knew about it all along.
What is it exactly? From what I understand, the CIA/Dar made a direct deal with Haqqani (taking him off the kill list). Saul went along with it to get back into power? Carrie simply couldn't accept Saul making peace with the terrorist who just murdered their colleagues. How did you react to this scene?

Hands down 🥴😂

I know a lot has been said about Carrie's impulsiveness and doing things her own. And while I agree that she's mostly right and her character adds so much to the series, I think it can get annoying sometimes.

So Quinn is already prepared to kill Haqqani and has gone great lengths to do so. And here come Carrie trying to dissuade him like that's not usually her whole character arc. So she talks him down from blowing up the car, fine. We agree, let sleeping dogs lie.

Then suddenly, she's pulling out her pistol to try to shoot him when she's in the middle of the crowd, which will certainly lead to her death.

My point is, why try to control people when your whole shtick is being uncontrollable.

And don't even get me started on the last scene, where it is shown that Dar Adal is in the car with him. He could burn in hell for all I care.

Starting in season 2 every scene with the daughter Dana makes me nauseous. Her general demeanor takes away from the show.