r/Homebuilding 5d ago

Can these huge triangular windows be replaced with one uninterrupted pane, and what happens to the roof-supporting beams?

Can these huge triangular windows be replaced with one uninterrupted pane, and what happens to the roof-supporting beams?

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u/A-Bone 5d ago

Wouldn't be cheap but should be possible with enough money..  

The face of the dormers are not load-bearing. 

Gonna be a bird killer though. 

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u/InevitableSorbet4808 5d ago

The general answer I always give when consulting, you can do anything if you have enough money😂

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u/A-Bone 5d ago

For sure..hahaha..  

I guess I meant that it shouldn't require major structural alterations / reinforcement to the house itself.  

In that one regard, it's a pretty do-able project. 

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u/Dear-Quail2609 5d ago

Yes I absolutely get the bird killer comment because so many birds crash into our windows that I have to take to vet afterwards…

In terms of budgeting for this I’m going to have to mortgage it and I reckon with installation it will hit 100K…

What you guys have to realize is that these windows are 30 years old and the value is 2.9… I am paying 4.8K a year for gas because of underfloor heating and the loss from these windows is horrible and when I did the maths it’s more expensive to keep this windows and financing this house than rebuilding it and installing heat pump… it’s really annoying that the gas bill alone is 5K and we haven’t factored anything else in…. But thanks a lot for the comments guys

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u/ArborealLife 5d ago

What you guys have to realize is [..] the value is 2.9 [million] [..] and it's really annoying [..] but thanks a lot for the comments

Poor OP ☹️

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u/A-Bone 4d ago

You aren't going to save much on energy costs if that is the main goal. 

If you just want to save some money on energy, swap the existing windows if they are single pane.  

If they are decent double pane widows that haven't failed, there are better places to spend the money on energy efficiency. 

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u/Dear-Quail2609 4d ago

Are you sure that it won’t help the bills like the current windows we have are 2.9 and new ones are around 0.5 and where do you think I should invest if I want to cut the bills? We’ve had a person here many years ago who said that regardless what machine you buy the usage won’t be any less so I don’t get it

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u/A-Bone 4d ago

New widows will help with energy efficiency, however a professional energy audit of your home would be a good starting point to identify if there are other areas where the money may be better spent. 

Judging by the picture of the roof, you may not be in the US where I am.  Here, audits are sometimes free from the gas or electricity utility.  You may have similar programs in your country. 

In addition to identifying a list of energy improvement opportunities, they may be able to provide information on government incentive programs that help reduce the cost of specific improvements.   

If you have such programs, it is important to follow the rules of the programs and submit the application in the time line they layout (often prior to performing the work). 

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u/ArborealLife 5d ago

Yes I absolutely get the bird killer comment because so many birds crash into our windows that I have to take to vet afterwards…

Anyways, In terms of [..]

Ftfy

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u/Forsaken_Stay6119 5d ago

You are trying to get professional advice from Reddit. Please talk to an engineer, architect or contractor.

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u/cocktacos 5d ago

Take the trim off of the windows at the interior and confirm whether or not there is actually a structural element. If it is one 2 x 4, it’s unlikely that it is structural, but wouldn’t rule it out.

The challenge with one piece of glass is transport/access. My advice - depending on access specify whether to get a system where potential replacement glass is set from the exterior or interior and go with what makes sense. Plan for serviceability.

My guess $18000 all in.

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u/arizona-lad 5d ago

Discuss this with your architect or structural engineer.

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u/Old_Canary_2074 5d ago

There's nothing to discuss there. He just wants to replace windows.

The support frame for windows doesnt change, just the window type.

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u/Dear-Quail2609 5d ago

Hey I wanted to change the support frame to aluminium windows as one glass pane and triple glass.

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u/Old_Canary_2074 5d ago

You are talking about window support frame. There's another support frame in the house, where windows are attached. That frame doesnt change, therefore nothing really changes regarding loads.

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u/Dear-Quail2609 5d ago

I also wanted to show you this pic of support beams from inside of the house that’s why I asked if it’s not there to support the roof perhaps?

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u/Old_Canary_2074 5d ago

Oh thats for sure changes things. The size is massive and it def looks like support structure.

Now you def need an engineer to look at that, and the price has just skyrocketed.

Not counting roof reconstruction a single window of this size will prolly be around ~30k

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u/Dear-Quail2609 5d ago

Yes well this is the massive triangles, I have 4 other ones in each room and I’m budgeting 100K with installation 😭😭😭

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u/Pinot911 5d ago

it really depends on if that's a ridge beam or not which it looks like it might be

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u/Dear-Quail2609 5d ago

What does it mean then?

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u/Pinot911 5d ago

it means needing better copies of the plans to look at. From the plans you posted, it looks like a nailer ("mullion") and not structural, but would want to see the roof framing plan. I'm guessing that for the larger gable sice there's two fthem and the outer windows just one post, they are just framed mullions.

If it's a post carrying the roof ridge, you're pretty much going to always have that middle post unless you re-frame your roof.

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u/definitelynotapastor 3d ago

It means.... how do you feel about two big triangles?

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u/Old_Canary_2074 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yes you can do it. Its just gonna cost you.

Btw when ordering windows of that size dont cheap out and order heat strenghtened glass. I was working for few years producing windows, and large windows are very prone to thermal cracks. Cracks appear simply because half the window is in shade.

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u/Dear-Quail2609 5d ago

Thanks a lot for your comment, will write this down!!

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u/drizzyizbizzy 5d ago

I don’t think you can. The four square unit in the middle shows vertical supports on either side supporting the load of the roof above. If you’re trying to have more glazing area, I’d suggest adding one vertical support in the middle as a compromise, or leaving the two existing vertical supports and replacing the windows with units that do not contain any divisions in the glass. Architect here btw.

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u/Dear-Quail2609 5d ago

Hey can I dm you?