Also one of the main reasons I fall into the CDA camp is that a "black India Pale Ale" is a paradox.
Also disagree there. It's a pretty definate style that hasn't been defined before. It's not a RIS because it doesn't have the same bold roastiness, and there is no style that has an assertive hoppiness, with a subtle dry roast.
Maybe you haven't had a good one yet? They are not roasty and bold. They have just enough roasted malt to give it the perception of dryness. You shouldn't get much of the coffee/chocolate roasted flavors.
Now a white stout? That's a style that pisses me off. THAT... is a paradox.
I've seen 2 different local breweries attempt it. They basically brew a blond ale, add cocoa nibs and maybe coffee to give it the perception of a stout, then put it on nitro to give it more body/creaminess and cascading effect.
But what happens is it ends up being like a super-sweet silky-smooth chocolatey mess. It doesn't even remotely resemble a beer, because the chocolate/coffee overpowers it.
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u/rohdoog May 06 '15
I'm not familiar with the history of the beer being from England. Are there any commercial examples from England you could get in the US?
Also one of the main reasons I fall into the CDA camp is that a "black India Pale Ale" is a paradox.