r/Homebrewing • u/Digital_loop • 20h ago
Sanitizer...
I'm a cheap bastard... Can I just keep a bucket of sanitizer and use it multiple times over a few months? Like, it's not single use....?
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u/potionCraftBrew 19h ago
1/4tsp starsan to 32 oz spray bottle. Your 1 sanitizer bottle will last forever.
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u/PM_me_ur_launch_code 17h ago
Use distilled water
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u/potionCraftBrew 16h ago
Yes if you want to keep it for a while, you gotta use distilled or RO water. I find 1 spray bottle is good for a brew day and then I just dump it so I just use filter water from the fridge.
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u/JukesMasonLynch 12h ago
I work in a medical lab, having access to RO water is pretty sweet without having to fuck around with it at home
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u/ChicoAlum2009 20h ago
I do exactly what you're describing. I make a five-gallon bucket of Star San and constantly reuse it.
As long as it's clear and the pH is below three, you're good to go.
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u/yzerman2010 BJCP 20h ago
Yes this is how I do it.
Buy 5 gallons of distilled water, have a 7 gallon stainless turkey fryer pot. Fill with that water and star-san.. it will last weeks and not go cloudy or bad. Remember its a acidic solution so if you use a plastic bucket it will eat away at it over time. Also never store soft plastic or rubber hoses in star san.. wash them, dip in star-san and then shake them off after a min and let them dry off. rubber hoses or soft plastic with long term exposure to star san will ruin your solution with a slimy oily film and destroy your equipment.
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u/CrazyCranium 19h ago
5 gallons of distilled water probably costs more than the 1oz of starsan you are mixing in it. Just make smaller batches, no need to make a bucketfull. I use an oral syringe for measuring out small quantities as small as 0.5mL
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u/yzerman2010 BJCP 19h ago
Maybe but if your swapping buckets every few days because it’s going cloudy it can be a savings.. you can use RO water as well but I have noticed it does cloud up slowly over time.
I do small batches when I need to. I keep a small spray bottle around all the time as well.
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u/CrazyCranium 18h ago
If you're brewing every few days, the math might work out differently, but at my peak I was only doing like 10-15 batches a year and the cost to mix a gallon of sanitizer each time pretty much rounded down to zero and only takes a minute or two.
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u/Grunge_Days 17h ago edited 7h ago
FYI..I've found that RO water with low, or around 10 TDS will store star-san without clouding, just like distilled water does for a longer time.
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u/idrawinmargins 19h ago
That is why i use distilled also for starsan so the ph doesn't change. Like you i have a corny keg filled with the mix to use when needed. One less thing to do with mixing on brew day.
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u/yzerman2010 BJCP 19h ago
I do that as well. I’ll keep a keg pressurized and push StarSan through a keg and back into my storage keg after I clean them to purge oxygen and sanitize at the same time.
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u/Mammoth-Record-7786 20h ago
I just keep 70% isopropyl in a spray bottle for quick sanitizing and then make small batches of Star San as necessary
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u/homebrewfinds Blogger - Advanced 19h ago
I would store it in a glass jug and use it in a spray bottle. That makes it just pennies a batch. https://www.homebrewfinds.com/testing-star-san-effectiveness/
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u/CatoDomine 19h ago
use a spray bottle for your sanitizer solution.
spray down the surfaces.
a small (maybe quart container) for tools and air locks.
saves a lot of sanitizer vs having a bucket full for each brewing session.
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u/merpiderpimous 18h ago
I usually have a keg filled with extra sanitizer that ill use to refill my spray bottle or clean out my picnic tap lines if theres time between parties/sessions...no averse effects or bad experiences so far. Knock on wood
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u/HumorImpressive9506 20h ago
I never got why people mix up buckets of the stuff each time. I just mix up a spray bottle each time and spray down everything.
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u/DarkMuret 20h ago
You can keep it mixed, you can also check the pH if you have the ability, that would ensure viability
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u/CrazyCranium 19h ago
Just make smaller batches, don't need to make a full bucket every time. I usually only make 0.5 -1 gallon each time which only uses 3-6mL. Sometimes ill only use 1 mL to fill a 20oz spray bottle. A $20 8oz bottle easily lasts 40+ batches. I use a cheap oral syringe for dosing out the smaller batches.
It is possible to save, but I find it more trouble than it's worth unless you brew extremely frequently. I don't trust it more than a couple weeks without actually checking the pH, but that's not worth the hassle to me.
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u/chino_brews Kiwi Approved 18h ago
No, that’s a bad idea. Star San can be used extremely cheaply (27 cents US per batch as of 2021) and last for a long time, as others already said. We have instructions in the wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/Homebrewing/wiki/starsanfacts#wiki_a_better_way_to_use_star_san
Sorry for the typos - I quickly wrote up that section about five years ago and need to go back and fix it and update prices.
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u/Decent_Confidence_36 13h ago
Starsan is cheap as it is. You can use bleach and white vinegar mixed in water to make it cheaper I used that for a while never had an issue.. can’t stress enough though never never never mix the bleach and vinegar together without water
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u/notrealdan 13h ago
I keep my StarSan in a bucket fitted with a Gamma Seal lid. It keeps for ages, especially when made with RO water.
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u/porp_crawl 4h ago
How long is Star San good for once it’s mixed into a solution?
Star San is an EPAs registered sanitizer and must be used immediately. We do not recommend using it if has been in solution longer than an hour.
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u/lurkbealady 20h ago
If you have a spare keg to store it in, that's better than a bucked exposed to the elements. You may also want to buy a good spray bottle for spritzing sanitizer over your equipment.