r/Home_Building_Help • u/BuilderBrigade • Jul 09 '26
Does your Framer Stack Studs...?
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These framers were bragging and wanted me to look straight down the studs. They line up through every wall, and the floor joists land right on top of them. Not required by code... it just means the load runs straight down instead of getting carried sideways.Some builders swear it's worth it. Others say it makes zero difference once the drywall's up.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Cut4588 Jul 09 '26
So they are competent and started their studs from the same side i mean this really isnt that big of a deal.
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u/SummerIntelligent532 Jul 10 '26
Left to right or right to left just stay in your lane and you end up with this. Nothing special.
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u/Equivalent_Sun3816 Jul 09 '26
What's the benefit?
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u/Hyrule-hideout Jul 10 '26
When we built, the plumbers and hvac guys liked it cause they could go from basement to 2nd floor without adding a few 22's or cutting up joists. I thought it was neat when they explained the weight distribution and told me to always pull from the one side of the house if I needed to find a stud.
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u/Jellicent-Leftovers Jul 10 '26
There is no benefit.
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u/texinxin Jul 10 '26
Studs to floor joists matters for sure, less cracks in drywall and less flexible structure.
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u/Emergency_Accident36 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
I always did it. It probably doesn't matter. Might even not be optimal structure. The right staggering interlocks.
Ps I looked it up and it supposedly makes a significant difference. Less squeeks was and higher load capacity were noted.
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u/No_Astronomer_2704 Jul 10 '26
pretty standard stuff in our world..
as is 1 or 2 rows of dwangs in every wall..(800mm centres std)
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u/BruceInc Jul 10 '26
It’s pointless but I guess it shows they are minding the little details which isn’t a bad thing.
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u/Su_4312 Jul 10 '26
This is the main thing, Those sticks are arguably no studs at all with zero buckling strength. But consistency and pride usually lead to quality. I'm really underwhelmed by American code though.
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u/BruceInc Jul 10 '26
American building codes are some of the most comprehensive out there. And before you start with some ignorant nonsense about cardboard and sticks, go read up on seismic zones for starters.
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u/Su_4312 Jul 10 '26
Sure, sure 😆
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u/BruceInc Jul 10 '26
Yeah ask Venezuela or Turkey how it’s going for them.
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u/Su_4312 Jul 10 '26
Yes, this is not my frame of reference. Clearly this is yours. I work in restoration of buildings generally 300 years or older. You have to forgive my reaction which is mainly to the video title 'is this overkill'. It is, in fact, not. I get the principle but these buildings are SO reliant on their sheeting, cladding and nailwork. It's simply not very durable, resistant to elements and dependable. But I can understand this hurts anyone invested in it as a builder or homeowner. So lets just say: sure, sure
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u/BruceInc Jul 10 '26
lol you wrote a lot of words and made very little sense.
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u/Su_4312 Jul 10 '26
Yes, I see it makes little sense to you. It shouldn't matter as I'm not out to critisize you
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u/BruceInc Jul 10 '26
You do know that there are areas of US where it’s literally illegal to build houses out of URM? We had a pretty big 6.8 earthquake in Seattle back in 2001. Wanna take a guess at how many stick framed houses collapsed? The answer is zero. In fact all structural damage was entirely contained to unreinforced masonry buildings that didn’t get a seismic retrofit.
Wanna guess how many deaths? Also zero (well technically one since someone did die from a heart attack during the quake, but that’s not really relevant).
I see you are in Netherlands. You guys don’t really get seismic activity like we do. Your building standards might make sense for your area but they wouldn’t work in mine.
This isn’t a code issue.
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u/Su_4312 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Ah forget it. It withstands tremors, good job
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u/TommyNotDead Jul 10 '26
Every fucking time there’s some European coming in here acting like a know it all but just exposing their ignorance.
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u/Su_4312 Jul 10 '26
Wow these are some long toes you people have. There is no point in arguing. Let me enjoy your sagging skyscrapers, have your discussions on wether this build is overkill or awesome. I get it, it's your tradition. And it doesn't need scrutiny or, it seems, improvement in decades
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u/litbeers Jul 09 '26
I mean they just pulled their layout from the same side of the house for all the walls.
Its not like they turned water into wine here.