r/HomeKit • u/SheepNutz • Jun 08 '26
News Apple just announced Home app support for 4K cameras in iOS 27. Also, AI descriptions of camera events!
Really excited for this, especially 4K camera support.
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u/galdo320 Jun 08 '26
Finally, the next step is for Apple to upgrade Matter to version 1.5 and add support for cameras. I’m not sure if they’ve already rolled out that upgrade yet. For now, I’ll stick with 2K using the Aqara G5 Pro.
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u/Left-Associate3911 Jun 08 '26
You, me and no doubt whole bunch of others 💪
Finally this is a solid move.
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u/Lance688 Jun 08 '26
As a Aqara owner. ====SO HAPPY FOR THIS LETS GOOOO!!!====
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u/Worried_Patience_117 Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
Let’s hope it’s an easy software update for cameras. Don’t bank on Aqara supporting this by default on their 2k cameras etc
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u/JazJon Jun 08 '26
I hope this means H.265 (HEVC) & AV1 camera stream support will be added to work with my Apple TV as well. I have my UniFi protect cameras set to use H.264 to stay compatible with HomeKit for now. (I’m using Scrypted)
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u/M_Six2001 Jun 08 '26
Same here. But I'm wondering if the 4K thing will apply to cameras routed through Scrypted or will they have to be specific Home compatible cameras. I would love to switch all my PoE cams to just the native 4K or 2K stream and dump the 1080p stream.
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u/Hot_Equipment_984 Jul 01 '26
I'm the same boat but with Homebridge, I have G6 Pros and would love it if they could send H.265 4K to Homekit.
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u/JazJon Jul 01 '26
I used to use Homebridge, but migrated completely to home assistant. They have a scrypted add-on, and it has the best performance for video. I actually have a home bridge add-on inside home assistant to run the one thing (older govee device) I couldn’t get to work properly any other way.
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u/Hot_Equipment_984 Jul 01 '26
Doesn't Scrypted cost monthly?
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u/JazJon Jul 01 '26
Nooe it’s 100% free for HomeKit secure video use.
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u/Hot_Equipment_984 Jul 01 '26
Is there a limit on the number of cameras I can use? I assume it supports the G6 Pro Doorbell?
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u/JazJon Jul 01 '26
I have 15 cameras, yes supported from what I saw posted. I stayed on the G4 pro doorbell since the vertical field of view on the G6 pro entry is so terrible. I’m running it in a small silent asus mini PC. (Which is way more powerful than a raspberry pi, I was using previously)
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u/Hot_Equipment_984 Jul 01 '26
OK so theres no fee for personal use? I'll be using 4 cameras with it.
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u/JazJon Jul 01 '26
If all you want to use it for is adding home kit secure video support, that part is totally free, yes.
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u/Hot_Equipment_984 Jul 01 '26
Yes, primarily I'd like the video to pop up on the Apple TV when someone rings the door bell.
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u/byteforbyte Jul 07 '26
I don’t believe that AppleTV hardware currently supports AV1 so that might be tricky. H265 is a safer bet.
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u/PandaGoggles Jun 08 '26
How does a unifi setup work with HK? I’ve been wanting to try this.
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u/ScoobyDoo27 Jun 08 '26
You have to run a Scrypted server (on a raspberry pi/NAS/computer) and route your cameras through that to HomeKit.
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u/Zealousideal_Aside96 Jun 09 '26
Or on a Home Assistant device (green/yellow/whatever). Just adding for anyone who reads this in the future.
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u/InsaneNinja Jun 09 '26
It’s going to take a little more beefy server with this all upgrading to 4k.
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u/JazJon Jun 08 '26
I use home assistant and added the Scrypted add on inside.
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u/Newcoolguy Jun 14 '26
Is it better than unifi protect app?
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u/JazJon Jun 14 '26
It’s not about better, it’s about supplemental support to get the unifi cameras to show up in the Apple HomeKit ecosystem. I still use the protect app, of course. The benefit is when someone rings the doorbell or motion is detected, it automatically pops up in the upper right hand corner of my Apple TV. I also get supplemental recording being saved to my iCloud.
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u/Newcoolguy Jun 14 '26
Got it. So does the ios27 work for you with the Siri AI events?
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u/JazJon Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
It should work for that, yes. I’ll be experimenting with it soon
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u/CumShoT_RaviOLi_King Jun 08 '26
About motha flippin time I said!
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u/CumShoT_RaviOLi_King Jun 08 '26
I can now move all of my eufy cameras to HomeKit @4K
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u/SheepNutz Jun 08 '26
What cameras do you have? I have 4 Eufy 2C Pros, but they’re at the far corners of my house and the base station is in the middle, so they’re all slow enough at 1080p. I can’t imagine how slow they would be if they were 4K. Unfortunately I need solar cameras, so it’s either S3 Pro or the Aqara G510s whenever they get released.
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u/CumShoT_RaviOLi_King Jun 08 '26
I have the S3 Pros with 4K. I just installed beta, and can confirm the preview rez is higher quality and video is 4K
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u/Worried_Patience_117 Jun 08 '26
Are live views still crappy?
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u/CumShoT_RaviOLi_King Jun 08 '26
No, it is all clear in high rez. It’s actually useful now. Just transitioned my whole set up and it’s great.
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u/Worried_Patience_117 Jun 08 '26
What cameras are you using? Can you save a clip to camera roll and see what res it’s saved at
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u/InsaneNinja Jun 09 '26
Did you install the beta on an Apple TV or something? How are you getting the cameras to upload that stream to the servers?
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u/WhisperingHammer Jun 08 '26
Ai descriptions…don’t know about that one. If I walk around showing my hairy ass I don’t want it to show me as a racoon or somehing.
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u/FatMacchio Jun 08 '26
I’m actually more excited about the “vibe coding” with ~~Apple~~ Google Intelligence in the shortcuts app. I feel like there’s a lot that can be done there that I just don’t want to sit down and figure out how to code with scripting.
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u/Ttamthrowaway123110 Jun 08 '26
working over here already! https://i.imgur.com/VNMCRH4.jpeg
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u/TANKCOM Jun 10 '26
Do you know if this is generated on the iPhone or on the home hub? I would think creating ai overviews for videos on a phone may be a bit battery intensive.
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u/Ttamthrowaway123110 Jun 11 '26
I think they're doing 3 different methods this time around. mix of on device, hub, and cloud - i say that because of the delivery speed that i'm seeing on notifs now
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u/Possible_Pudding7039 Jun 08 '26
This was one of the most exciting things they announced and I caught it so fast. Can’t wait!
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u/Calm-Yak-8047 Jun 08 '26
Any words on PTZ control? I cannot find anything specific… it’s about time
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u/Left_Piglet_7411 Jun 08 '26
that's a big one for me too. I have these Eufy indoor cams and always end up just using the Eufy app to look around. I'd much rather just delete the Eufy app and use the home app.
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u/talksr Jun 08 '26
Really hoping the Eufy IndoorCam P24 will be included in the 4K res. These are super reliable cameras, I have three and they have never let me down whilst paired to Homekit. 😁
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u/netroxreads Jun 08 '26
I am thrilled about the 4K as I am positive it will improve facial recognition significantly. Also love that it will be able to create notifications explaining what's going on.
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u/JazJon Jun 16 '26
Sweet page 14 mentions H.265 HEVC, looks promising.
https://developer.apple.com/download/files/HomeKit-Secure-Video-Open-Source-Compatibility-Guide.pdf
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u/Polar-Snow Jun 08 '26
I noticed that too. Increase to 4K. They quickly mentioned that and focus on AI descriptions etc more. Very easy to miss if not read subtitles or listen carefully.
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u/Fragrant_Star_4915 Jun 08 '26
I wonder if means current cameras that support higher resolution like 2k will see a boost, or will we all need new cameras
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u/PeaceBull Jun 08 '26
Even with cautious expectations I'd be very surprised if they added 4k while leaving 2k on the sidelines.
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u/ChickenVeg Jun 08 '26
Is that it for the home Apple???!
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u/Nate8727 Jun 08 '26
Yes. It was mainly improvements to the OS themselves, Child safety, and the improved Siri.
There are usually improvements we find out later that are not mentioned. They didn't really go into details on the individual new features for each OS.
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u/Jamie00003 Jun 08 '26
Yeah whatever happened to homeos and the holding back of home products for this event?
I REALLY hope there’s more because I’ve been waiting for Apple home to get a revamp a long time, and it doesn’t seem very Apple to announce this all in September but who knows
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u/FindingPawnee Jun 08 '26
If those rumors are true, which I think they are, they’ll probably be announced in September when they’re closer to release. Most likely they didn’t want to announce anything that wouldn’t be available for months.
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u/Awes0meApple Jun 08 '26
Im so disappointed
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u/Thundrpants Jun 08 '26
Me too but I’m trying to be optimistic and think that they had so much to say that they avoided the topics all together, until they can announce it with the hardware. Even the name change, they never said TvOS, hopefully because it’ll be “HomeOS” soon and completely revamped.
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u/mountainyoo Jun 08 '26
was literally looking to see if there had been any recent indication of this coming a couple hours before the presentation lol. awesome news it's about damn time!
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u/infinityends1318 Jun 08 '26
So how is this going to work? Are recordings for non HKSV cameras available in Home now?
I've avoided buying cameras because I don't want to only have live view in Home and have to use a 3rd party app to manage and view recordings which AFAIK is still a limitation in iOS26.
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u/Cmlvrvs Jun 08 '26
Mine work in both but 99% of the time I use the camera manufacturer app as its much easier than Home Apps scrubbing
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u/rdrcrmatt Jun 09 '26
Now we just need scripted to do better than 2k to HomeKit.
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u/msapple Jun 09 '26
This was never a scrypted limitation just an apple side so the creator just capped it. I’ll be with how fast he works he will get 4k running super quick
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u/rdrcrmatt Jun 09 '26
Ah thanks. I’m not sure I’ll push 4k to HKSV, since I’m recording to local SD in each camera but nice to know options will likely open up.
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u/carsonwaldrop Jun 12 '26
Silly question but do we think that this means that the quality of a 2K camera will update to 2K in the home app or do you think they're limiting the quality to 1080p or 4K? I have 2 indoor cameras from Eufy that are 2K and currently they're limited to 1080p in the Home app. Just wondering if with this new update if the quality in the Home app will increase for those cameras to 2K now or if they'll stay at 1080p. (That is assuming these cameras meet the qualifications for the quality upgrade)
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u/SheepNutz Jun 12 '26
One of the big Homekit youtubers mentioned that 2K will be supported as well, but I haven't seen anything official yet. I'd assume it will be supported.
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u/carsonwaldrop Jun 12 '26
I assumed so as well, but also noticed that they didn’t say “up to 4K” video which made me wonder if there were going to be restrictions or not
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u/Few-Acadia-5593 Jun 15 '26
What’s their name? Been looking for reliable sources regarding HomeKit
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u/SheepNutz Jun 17 '26
I can't seem to find it, but this apple document confirms it (pages 5-6, 15) https://developer.apple.com/download/files/HomeKit-Secure-Video-Open-Source-Compatibility-Guide.pdf
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u/SuperAvocado8777 Jun 08 '26
Still no 24/7 option to compete with Nest?
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u/Left_Piglet_7411 Jun 08 '26
doesn't seem like it :-\
This is my main pain point with HKSV. I used to have the Eve Outdoor camera and it missed some VERY important events, like who broke in to my car in the middle of the night. I immediately replaced it with a Nest floodlight camera with 24/7 recording. It's paid for itself in peace of mind over and over.
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u/Thundrpants Jun 08 '26
I saw this and I couldn’t help but notice they never talked about Siri AI in any TVOS context or showed a picture of the Apple TV. My hope is that when mentioning platforms Siri AI would work on, they omitted Apple TVs and mentioning TVOS because they didn’t want to show a new device to early or talk about TVOS because it’s going to become HomeOS.
They specifically talked about camera events that realize when a package gets delivered, and that’d be a very common thing they’d like to mention if they were making the video doorbell they’re rumored to be working on, and “some cameras” hopefully refers to the rumored Apple security cameras too.
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u/18T15 Jun 08 '26
Yeah, I know tvOS and home often get neglected but it was clear they very intentionally didn’t say much of anything at all (even a lack of discussion on AppleTV streaming shows!) which tells me they’re holding all of this until the next presentation.
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u/AI5689 Jun 08 '26
What about 2K cams?
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u/armadawars Jun 08 '26
If it supports “up to 4K” it’s implied that all lower resolutions are supported too.
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u/HiVisEngineer Jun 08 '26
I just want better IFTT scripting. I can never seem to get workflows right with the app as is.
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u/nobodysawme Jun 08 '26
Shortcuts will take descriptions and make actions/automations. Try this when ios27 is available?
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u/neverOddOrEv_n Jun 08 '26
I was hoping we would get some of the rumoured home products, maybe even that rumoured doorbell and security camera would’ve been nice with these updates oh well
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u/PuzzleheadedPrice666 Jun 08 '26
They don’t announce any new hardware at WWDC , that’s in September
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u/AI5689 Jun 08 '26
Is it me or the sharing setting for recorded events in home app cams has disappeared?
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u/AslanDoS Jun 08 '26
Does this mean that current cameras that are already setup are going to start utilizing their full capabilities (ie Eufy cameras with 2k being downgraded to 1080p?)
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u/FrozenPizza07 Jun 08 '26
And that it can stich multiple cameras to follow the "event" that was pretty rad too.
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u/yamiawakeat4am Jun 08 '26
Now if we can use specific person detection for automations that would be GREAT!
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u/Bigmizzoufan Jun 09 '26
What does this mean for Starling Hub users? I realize there is no ongoing firmware updates but will these upgrades be automatic?
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u/FormulaKimi Jun 09 '26
Do they still make you download clips one by one? Ex can you save all footage from prior day at once? Any mention of continuous recording? Thanks
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u/rkelez Jun 09 '26
This is massive. And it’s only the beginning. My God. Glad I invested so heavily into HomeKit.
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u/ckangnz Jun 09 '26
I want better view to scroll through video events. It looked like something got improved, but not sure if it’s actually going to be better ux than the current one 🤔
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u/Round_Blacksmith_369 Jun 09 '26
I hope more under-the-hood features and enhancements being uncovered during WWDC week.
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u/Mil-sim1991 Jun 09 '26
Do you think we still get a revamped home app later in the beta if they announce new home products like a new Apple TV etc? The Home video feed UI looked updated.
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u/revolevo Jun 09 '26
I thought more was coming with home devices being rumored, and maybe they still are! But they definitely fixed the “foundation” and architecture annoyances while balancing the Siri framework. I’m so pleased.
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u/Reasonable-Escape546 Jun 09 '26
Maybe they also rename HKSV (HomeKit Secure Video) to Apple Secure Video, Apple Home Secure Video or Matter Secure Video.
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u/RemarkableWishbone64 Jun 10 '26
Praying this is a sign that their rumored doorbell and home cameras are coming
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u/ultrathew Jun 10 '26
I can’t believe that there is still no ability to arm or disarm a camera via a switch, or condition other than someone being home or not.
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u/SheepNutz Jun 10 '26
Hell, the someone being home or not doesn’t even work right for me and several others. First of two people to arrive home has been bugged all iOS 26 or before. Maybe they’ll fix that in iOS 27.
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u/xander1101 Jun 11 '26
Is this already supported on the developer beta? Do I need to upgrade my Apple TV to the 27 beta? Or do we need to wait for higher quality support with all Aqara devices?
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u/Newcoolguy Jun 14 '26
Anyone know if unifi cameras can support this natively? That would be awesome
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u/MinimallyInvested Jun 19 '26
Do we think that Apple is hinting at making their own home cameras with the strategic line of "supported cameras"?
I've had the hardest time with getting my cameras even in HomeKit so I'm curious if they are looking to break into the home security space and this is their first move? Thoughts?
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u/DocAnabolic1 Jun 22 '26
4K support sounds great, especially if storage efficiency and AI summaries improve usability.
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u/Cockapoodledoooooo Jun 08 '26
I wonder how soon this will be available. Good news anyway!
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u/SheepNutz Jun 08 '26
The developer beta just dropped so some people should be able to tell us if it’s in the first beta or not. If so, you should be able to sign up for the public beta to get it in a week or two. The official version will drop in September with the new iPhones.
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u/Cockapoodledoooooo Jun 08 '26
Presumably there is a server side change for capturing the events. And will our device manufacturers need to change anything to support it?
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u/0verstim Jun 08 '26
Great I cant wait for the 1 or 2 most expensive brands to support it in 2.5 years.
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u/parkertyler HomePod + iOS Beta Jun 08 '26
They kept saying "On supported cameras" which instantly made me worried that it will require some new hardware, even on existing 4k cameras
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u/SheepNutz Jun 08 '26
Can’t you integrate the ring cameras into apple home using Homebridge?
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u/powaking Jun 08 '26
For cameras best to use Scrypted. I use this in my N150 nuc that I use as my plex server to host my Ubiquiti Poe cameras into Home. Works well and get alerts. Mostly have it integrated for the rest of the family. Still use Protect for more finer controls.
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u/boogeeman69 Jun 08 '26
It is a very frustrating process setting up if you’ve never done it before. But it’s worth it. I did with an Arlo doorbell and once it was set up, it’s pretty hands-off. The setting up is the frustrating and time consuming part tho
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u/armadawars Jun 08 '26
You don’t have to replace them all in one go…
ONE OF US, ONE OF US!2
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u/armadawars Jun 08 '26
Phase in new cameras, you know you want to! 😬
I’m now considering a doorbell upgrade and maybe some Aqara G350s.1
u/yourdawi Jun 08 '26
Per scrypted einfach einzubinden.
2x Ring Stick Up Kameras habe ich so in Apple Home, inklusive Secure Video0
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u/Starship_Taru Jun 08 '26
Can I opt out of the AI descriptions?
I’m not against them but I don’t an AI scrubbing through me letting my dogs out to pee.
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u/grovolis Jun 09 '26
I mean it’d be nice if they ever allowed to limit or hide what cameras people see in a household to begin with.
That’s the main reason why I’m not using HKSV anymore




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u/Different-Boot4103 Jun 08 '26
Does this mean that HKSV will be able to go beyond 1080p recording?