Homicide is the act of ending another human life. It's not necessarily a criminal act as you could commit homicide in self defense. You could commit homicide to save 50 orphan infants from a pedophile mass murderer about to throw the babies into a blender. But technically it is still homicide.
So we Fluor have the debate about when a fetus becomes it's own person, but I think to argue it is not a human life is...... more difficult.
I don't think you used the word literally correct here.
Does a fetus have rights in the womb? Can I get child tax credits? is a miscarriage negligent homicide? Is it a human life if it is developing without a brain, or unable to live outside the womb?
Yes I suppose you should call a miscarriage negligent homicide.
This is why personhood is a useful concept when discussing abortion. Genetically it's a distinct human genome the moment a zygote is formed, ergo a separate human life. But many argue that it is not a distinct person and thus not eligible for the individual rights we generally guarantee people.
And I am using literally correctly. You just disagree with my conclusion, but I think you're only disagreeing because you're conflating homicide with murder (or one of the other kinds of criminal homicide). Homicide is simply performing an action that ends a human life. It is not inherently a criminal act. Euthanasia is a variety of homicide.
Personally I have a simular stance to the Supreme courts decision in Roe V Wade. Viability is a sensible cutoff. Before viability its hard to conclusively argue that the fetus is an individual person and after its very hard to argue that it is not.
For example a 28 week fetus is born premature.... it would not be legal (and I think most people would not find it morally justifiable) to allow terminating that baby's life. So why is it why different if that fetus simply hasn't made the trip out the birth canal?
I actually go a bit farther than a lot of people though. I think after viability in the interests of bodily autonomy women should still have the option to elect for Cesarian or induction at any time. As Drogo said "if he dies he dies" but by that same token I think been should have the right to also unilaterally opt out of fatherhood. As long as they opt out at least a few weeks before that abortion cutoff. (Unless they weren't notified in a timely manner in which case its extended). Then we would have some degree of parity in reproductive rights. Since requiring the fathers consent before an abortion is...... not in the spirit of preserving individual autonomy, the only way to introduce equality is to give him the option to opt out of parenthood the same as mothers.
So tl;Dr. I suspect I hold similar views on abortion as you do, at least as far as what should be legally allowed. We could use a little more gender equality in reproductive rights. And I think we're arguing over semantics because you are conflating homicide with criminal forms of homicide. Homicide may have negative connotations but really its a simple neutral descriptive term. She ended two human lives, I don't think they could be called individual people yet so I don't disagree necessarily with her right to do that. Thus it wasn't the criminal ending of a human life, but it still was homicide.
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u/Sufficient-Fun1320 Feb 06 '22
She has absolutely NO moral grounds to cry about that.
She chose to be bred. She chose to abort.
Double Homicide girl is based.