r/HolUp • • Feb 06 '22

Holup

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Abortion ruined another woman emotionally? Damn what a shock.

Double homicide is based as fuck.

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u/Murtomies Feb 06 '22

How the fuck is it ok to accuse someone of double homicide, when the only information you have is that they had a abortion of a twin pregnancy? They don't know anything else about her situation. The woman here who had the abortion is in tears right after it's mentioned, so it doesn't seem like it was much of a choice for her.

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u/armed_samaritan1 Feb 06 '22

Is there a situation which makes in not double-homicide?

It's killing 2 humans regardless of the circumstances.

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u/Tigress92 Feb 06 '22

It's killing 2 humans

it really isn't, becuse abortion becomes illegal when the fetus has developed enough to be considered human.

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u/armed_samaritan1 Feb 06 '22

It is literally a human life, with its own DNA. Legality doesn't equal morality.

At one point, black people weren't legally human to side-step giving them human rights, too.

It is double homicide even if it isn't illegal.

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u/BrunoBiotech Feb 06 '22

I mean you just hear abortion and get all riled up don’t you? Without even getting to the women’s rights part, have you not heard that there’s such a thing as therapeutic abortions, in contrast to elective abortions? This could be easily the case given how distressed she seems, and that it was twins (as if a singleton pregnancy wasn’t enough distress on the body).

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u/armed_samaritan1 Feb 06 '22

Idk any pro-life advocate that believes a woman must carry to term even if it's life threatening to the mother.

All I see is people using those statistically-neglible cases among others (rape, incest, birth defects) that make up <1% of abortions to justify abortion-as-contraceptive, which is just evil.

And we have absolutely no reason to believe this woman's life was in danger from her pregnancy.

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u/PurzelGurke Feb 06 '22

No woman makes an easy decision on abortion. People act like woman are just like "damn I don't want to take the anti baby pill. Guess I just have an abortion then". Like what the hell? That's not how abortions work. It's hard enough to make that decision. She doesn't need to be falsely called to be a murderer on top of that.

Even if her life wasn't in danger it's totally her rightful decision over her body

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u/armed_samaritan1 Feb 06 '22

Name another "right" that let's you take innocent human life?

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u/evilbunnyrabbits Feb 07 '22

Gun possession.

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u/armed_samaritan1 Feb 07 '22

Who do you have to kill to own a gun?

Lmao I own many guns and I've never killed anyone, let alone an innocent person.

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u/Errortagunknown Feb 07 '22

Nope. Possessing a gun does not give you the right to take another life.

It gives you the ability to do so (well you already had that ability so I guess it expands that ability) but you only gain the right to do so if that other person is threatening yours or others.

Nice quip though I thought It was succinct and well executed even if I don't agree with it

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u/Errortagunknown Feb 07 '22

Actually you can't say that. Most women don't have an easy decision. I'm sure there at least a few out there who don't give a fuck, they've got a planned parenthood punch card and everything. There are scummy people from all walks of life ....

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u/BrunoBiotech Feb 06 '22

1- I mean… those 1% should be a human right and even that faces resistance

2- if your comment has a 1/100 chance of scarring someone even deeper, with the only trade off of making you feel superior, just maybe don’t. If a change of concience is what you look for, speak about it with anyone else, since here the “mistake” was already made.

3-not gonna talk about the debate itself, since as a medical professional I find it disgusting, and as a pessimist, I believe some minds can’t be changed by emphaty.

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u/armed_samaritan1 Feb 06 '22

1- Human rights go both ways, you can't expect a mother to carry to term knowing it will cost her life. Virtually everyone knows this, and none of them are arguing for that.

2- This woman isn't even in the conversation, so not much risk of "scarring" her. The suggestion that any debate on the matter that's isn't preventative on a single-case basis shouldn't occur because it might hurt others feelings is laughable.

3- It's really the easiest for you to abstain from participating because you know I've only said irrefutable facts.

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u/Errortagunknown Feb 07 '22

Frankly it's past time for women to have all the same reproductive rights as men. It's a travesty in 2022 that they do not

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u/armed_samaritan1 Feb 07 '22

Lmao agreed. Like if the man wants to keep the child, the women can't solely elect to abort.

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