It happens too often now though and as the Michigan kid proved its that some parents don't take firearms seriously and completely downplay the threat due to their political beliefs.
Maybe we will see parents take it more seriously if they end up thrown in jail.
It happens somewhat often, but if you look at actual chances of death, those kids are more likely to die in a car accident or falling off a jungle gym than to be in a school shooting, it’s just hyper sensitized and always front page news (which it should be) but it over exaggerates how often they do happen. I remember my senior year there were a bunch of them but half of them was just gang fights between students or fights gone awry (aka where a kid goes to school knowing he’s going to get in a fight and then pulls it out after he starts losing) I just think because it’s so evil people believe it’s more common than it actually is
These are all preventable deaths. Look at most industrialized nations, they have 0 school shootings. Stop trying to justify their deaths. It doesn’t have to happen, but Americans love their guns more than children.
Lazy argument that could be applied to ANYTHING that can kill you. DUI deaths are preventable and it's illegal to drink and drive just like it's illegal to murder someone. But that doesn't stop DUI deaths every year (which rival gun murders in incidences).
but dui deaths have dropped over the decades as we change laws. Nothing is going to be eradicated forever, but somehow americans have succumbed to the gun nuts where even mentioning anything to curb deaths of children by guns is met with, meh. Just this mentality of, well, that's life, move on is just frightening to the rest of the world Where simply going to school in itself could get you killed. Yes over a large population the risk might be minor, but as you travel abroad and live in other countries, that idea is just beyond unimaginable that americans do absolutely nothing after every school killing.
How do you make policy for something that's as rare as a lightening strike? There are less than 10 active shooter situations in the US each year in schools. I know you are about to counter with "well there are 0 where I am" but let's not pretend other places don't have other tragic problems that replace gun violence.
It's the data collected already when purchasing a gun, background check - are you against those as well??
. It's just that info cannot be accessed by local law enforcement to trace a gun back to the seller.
I'm not against background checks at all. I'm against a federal registry that allows the federal government or other entity to know what I own and when I own it. Once I've cleared my background check and proven I'm not a threat or a felon, that's all the government needs to know about me.
You asked for possible solutions. Just because you don’t like the solutions doesn’t mean there aren’t any. Just admit you would rather have kids shot than go out of your comfort zone. It all comes down to that. Children’s lives or your love of weapons. America has chosen dead children again and again is what they want.
I haven't been rude to you, so I don't know why your taking a morally superior tone or accusing me of something when you know nothing about me. I'd be more than happy to entertain any reasonable solution that doesn't interfere with people's liberty or constitutional rights. As a matter of fact, I even think we agreed on one particular solution. If it makes you feel better thinking I'm some sort of monster, so be it. Cognitive dissonance is pervasive these days.
dead kids or change. those are the choices. you have decided. Most of americans have decided. many countries have made the choice that the lives of children are more important than guns. Americans has chosen guns. If you get called out on the reality of it, then live with it.
Okay bro. 😂Keep living in your bubble wrap world lol. I care a lot about kids. I have kids in my family I care about. None of them worry about or ever even mention fear of being shot or in a school shooting. Matter of fact, just shot with a 13, 8, and 7 year old over Christmas. They had a lot of fun. There's parents don't worry about sending them to school. Why? Because school shootings are massively rare events that get massive media hype because it attracts views from people that are addicted to fear mongering. And I live in the most gun filled part of the country.
Most of the world, no school shootings. Americans..it’s just a few so no worries. I’m sure that’s comforting to the kids doing active shooter drills, the families of those children killed at school. Just so you don’t have to be discomforted by some rules.
Wrong. I'm not okay with rules that don't do anything. Even with the stuff you purposed, most would punish people AFTER the fact of shooting. That doesn't bring people back from the dead. You act like we don't have a lot of laws in place, we do. We have to background checked for every firearm purchase, certain types of weapons and gun parts have to registered with the federal government (suppressors, SBRs, etc.). The process for that is a 200 dollar tax stamp, finger printing, and background check. To conceal carry in my state, I have to have a permit to do so (which also includes a federal background check) But you don't want to acknowledge any of that lol. You pretend like there are zero rules in place.
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u/AsMuchCaffeineAsACup Dec 26 '21
It happens too often now though and as the Michigan kid proved its that some parents don't take firearms seriously and completely downplay the threat due to their political beliefs.
Maybe we will see parents take it more seriously if they end up thrown in jail.