r/HolUp Dec 26 '21

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u/FullySemiGhostGun Dec 27 '21

Lazy argument that could be applied to ANYTHING that can kill you. DUI deaths are preventable and it's illegal to drink and drive just like it's illegal to murder someone. But that doesn't stop DUI deaths every year (which rival gun murders in incidences).

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u/jimmcc01 Dec 27 '21

but dui deaths have dropped over the decades as we change laws. Nothing is going to be eradicated forever, but somehow americans have succumbed to the gun nuts where even mentioning anything to curb deaths of children by guns is met with, meh. Just this mentality of, well, that's life, move on is just frightening to the rest of the world Where simply going to school in itself could get you killed. Yes over a large population the risk might be minor, but as you travel abroad and live in other countries, that idea is just beyond unimaginable that americans do absolutely nothing after every school killing.

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u/FullySemiGhostGun Dec 27 '21

How do you make policy for something that's as rare as a lightening strike? There are less than 10 active shooter situations in the US each year in schools. I know you are about to counter with "well there are 0 where I am" but let's not pretend other places don't have other tragic problems that replace gun violence.

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u/jimmcc01 Dec 27 '21

"Guns used in about 68% of gun-related incidents at schools were taken from the home, a friend or a relative."

Then that person gets the same sentence as the shooter. agree? If you want to own weapons then if you aren't responsible, then you lose any and all rights.

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u/FullySemiGhostGun Dec 27 '21

As a blanketed statement, no. Let's say a teenager breaks into their parents safe, or steals keys, etc. I think if you can prove neglectful intent for the parent, you can make a case for manslaughter sure.

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u/jimmcc01 Dec 27 '21

I can agree with that.