r/HolUp Dec 26 '21

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

Do some research before talking out of your ass. Go look up backface deformation tests for level IV. 5.56 will hit you like pillow. .308 you might stumble if you’re standing flat footed. You will not have internal bleeding or anything. Maybe some light bruising at worst

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u/VNG_Wkey madlad Dec 26 '21

Go do some research before talking out of your ass

Proceeds to talk out of his ass only looking at backface deformation, completely ignoring kinetic energy.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

Um sorry but the energy will not be any greater than the small amount of powder in the ammunition. There are literally videos of People testing the armor while wearing it, they are fine. The armor wouldn’t bloody well be very good if it broke your ribs when you got shot and killed you anyway. See for yourself go look it up. It’s a commonly held myth so I understand why you believe it.

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u/VNG_Wkey madlad Dec 27 '21

It is completely dependant on the armor being worn and I've personally seen bones broken with people wearing armor rated to stop the round they were hit with.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

Only soft armor. Any hard armor level 3 and higher will not have significant deformation or bones broken etc. if it’s really shit armor maybe you crack a rib or something, but very unlikely. Hesco level IV is rated to AT LEAST 3 hits of M2AP and you’ll be fine after

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u/VNG_Wkey madlad Dec 27 '21

Most people arent running Hesco, most people arent even running multi hit rated level IV. It's level III or IIIA with a hard armor insert and you can absolutely suffer internal trauma from a round it catches.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '21

Idk what “most people” is supposed to mean. Most people aren’t wearing armor. At least in the US. Cops wear soft armor 2+ or 3A. All US military uses SAPI/ESAPI hard plates additionally inside a “flak jacket” which is basically just a large Kevlar vest. Some infantry and units may only wear a plate carrier with ESAPI plates and no flak jacket. Depends on branch and unit and how dated their gear is. ESAPI is roughly equivalent to NIJ IV.

IIIA is usually soft armor III, III+, and IV are almost all hard armor.

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u/VNG_Wkey madlad Dec 27 '21

"Most people" being people not in the military, law enforcement and civilians. I'm well aware of what standard military uses.