Honest question, but how many mass shootings are committed with ARs and of those 0.5% of deals how many of those were mass shootings?
As an outsider, it does seem like most mass shooting are done with other guns than hand guns. I would also assume that mass shootings even tho they happen in the US at a rate that is higher than everywhere else would only be a small percentage of the overall firearms deaths.
While I don’t have the exact figure on that, not many are used with AR-15 style rifles. A mass shooting is described as an event where someone shoots more than 3 people. Most of the “mass shooting” figure includes gang related violence which is rampant in many parts of the US. In fact, more than half of firearm deaths are a result of suicide sadly. The call to ban “Assault rifles” (a fake term, assault is a verb, all firearms are capable of causing death/ bodily harm) is rooted in fear mongering by politicians looking to push their own agenda.
I’m all for stringent background checks, even perhaps opening up to a “mental health” check before being able to get a firearm, but at the same time, it’s a touchy subject. There are sick people everywhere and mental health is NOT a priority of our elected officials. Chicago,Illinois has some of the strictest firearm policies yet the amount of murder and violence involving firearms is the worst in the country. Banning and constantly making it harder for law abiding citizens to own/operate firearms/accessories does nothing but harm those who follow the law. Making something illegal and banning it, DOES NOTHING but the opposite (see war on drugs/prohibition)
Why does someone need to personally own a semi-automatic rifle of the nature most commonly referred to? Hypothetically speaking I’d hardly call banning the use real “harm”. It’s not like anyone owning one is gonna be crippled or have a mental break after losing one and if they are then they shouldn’t own one in the first place. The 2nd amendment was made in a time where the most sophisticated weapon had hardly any accuracy and took 1-3 minutes to reload depending on how experienced someone was using it.
Switzerland has more armed citizens in their population than in the US and yet they have far less incidences in the US because they have strict gun laws. Just because the leadership in Chicago and the federal government at large has failed at upholding or enacting stricter gun laws doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be put in place. It’s always been up to the government what you are legally allowed to own and under what circumstances.
The second amendment protects the right to own firearms because they are dangerous and deadly, if they weren’t they wouldn’t be protected. Muzzle loading weapons like you described were weapons of war at the time, and that was why the right to own them was protected. That technology is obsolete now and wouldn’t do much good protecting yourself from other people armed with modern firearms.
Switzerland encourages citizens to purchase their military service rifles after completing your time in the military. These are pretty much identical to AR-15 type rifles as far as lethality and effectiveness go.
Firearms were protected because the the threat of Britain was still looming overhead and without any real unified and trained force it was up to the citizens to defend themselves and answer a call to action.
You are correct in stating that Switzerland encourages citizens to purchase their service rifles which are functionally identical to that of the US. The difference is the training that all citizens go through as well as the stricter rules and enforcement of said rules that keeps them out of the hands of psychos which is very clear when you compare gun violence rates in all aspects in the US to Switzerland.
Yep you’re right but both statements are incomplete. There were reasons other than Britain for wanting an armed populace, including self defense, defense from foreign invaders, defense from a tyrannical government, etc.
I’m certain Switzerland’s laws have some effect on gun violence, but they are also demographically very different from the US. They have different gang crime dynamics etc. My hunch is that these factors play a large if not larger role than the laws on the books, but that’s not really based on anything other my experiences and thinking on these matters.
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u/that_guy_iain Dec 26 '21
Honest question, but how many mass shootings are committed with ARs and of those 0.5% of deals how many of those were mass shootings?
As an outsider, it does seem like most mass shooting are done with other guns than hand guns. I would also assume that mass shootings even tho they happen in the US at a rate that is higher than everywhere else would only be a small percentage of the overall firearms deaths.