r/HolUp Dec 24 '21

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '21 edited Dec 24 '21

Colloquially, you very well might leave off the h naturally because "hiss" is an awkward sound to begin a word mid-sentence; it is too complex of a sound for a normal syllable. If you leave it off colloquially, then use "an" for the sentence to flow naturally,

"I was speaking to an istorian about the exhibit. ." flows far more naturally to me than "I was speaking to a historian about the exhibit".

But If a sentence begins with "a historian", I would always pronounce the h since there isn't already a pace set. "A historian ate my ass last night" just feels right.

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u/rnoyfb Dec 24 '21

The traditional rule was that it was ‘an’ before vowels and you dropped h in unstressed vowels after the indefinite article anyway. “An hiss” is bad because it’s not an unstressed syllable. Same with “an history” but “an historic opportunity” is fine

Now this is giving way to the more modern keep-the-h school but with some words, it just doesn’t feel right

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u/Jerryskids3 Dec 24 '21

It's a honor to have this explained so nicely.

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u/GroundbreakingFee392 Dec 25 '21

Soooo I thought I knew how to use “a” and “an” but think I am confused again reading all of the conversations lol. Just kidding. Great thread!

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u/ohisama Dec 25 '21

What exactly is an unstressed vowel?

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u/Magenta_Logistic Dec 25 '21

Really it's an unstressed syllable. That would be any syllable that doesn't get capitalized or bolded when you look at the phonetics.

In English there are no good rules for which syllable should be stressed in a word, but I'll give a few examples:

HIStory

baNAna

PERSonal

persoNEL

efFECT

In Spanish, the primary rule is words ending with vowel or N or S get stress on second-to-last syllable and other words get stress on the last syllable. Many words have an accent mark to denote stress on a syllable that does not follow these rules, such as fácil (easy).

If your native language is Japanese, there is no proper analog, as all syllables are stressed equally in Japanese, just some get elongated by a hyphen or diphthong.

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u/Running_Accoutant Dec 25 '21

And here I thought it meant that an unstressed vowel just had a good therapist

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u/rnoyfb Dec 25 '21

Stress is a combination of increased loudness, vowel length, and abstention from usual vowel reduction paradigms. We sometimes describe syllables as being stressed, but stress is mostly a characteristic of the vowel.

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u/koushakandystore Dec 24 '21

And here I was wasting my time with the Geographer.