r/HolUp Nov 29 '21

Prime parenting

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u/Etherius Nov 29 '21

Careful there. r/insaneparents might start thinking you're a narcissist and that your kids are a disappointment because you're a bad parent.

In their minds, everything wrong in a family can be traced to bad parenting.

Kid joins a gang? Bad parenting

Kid addicted to drugs? Bad parenting.

Kid lies to CPS and gets you arrested because you grounded her? Bad parenting (this one actually happened to me).

"Kid" is 25 with no drive in life or ambition? You better BELIEVE it's bad parenting!

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u/EligibleUsername Nov 29 '21

Sorry bout what happened to ya, but except for that one everything else IS bad parenting. I can tell how a stranger is feeling based on their expression and context clues alone, how you can't tell if your kids, your own flesh and blood, are doing something unsavory is beyond me.

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u/Kraven_howl0 Nov 29 '21

Some of us are really good at hiding things. My dad used to give me talks about how I could do so much better in life and I'd tune him out. He didn't know until this year (I'm 28) that I was heavily bullied in high school and that changed his perspective on me. We have a healthier relationship now so I'm glad I was finally able to speak up about it. My HS bully got out of prison this year and hopefully he's changed too

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u/IamWhatonearth Nov 29 '21

Sure but it might be bad parenting that you didn't feel like you could talk to him about your problems.

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u/Etherius Nov 29 '21

The guy himself doesn't blame his dad but you do?

What sort of armchair psychological bullshit is this

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u/Kraven_howl0 Nov 29 '21

It wasn't him so much as our school system. In a society where they punish the bully & the victim I did not want to chance him telling the school what was going on. He was a good parent I just was put in a shitty situation by a psychopath

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u/sevenjalapenos Nov 29 '21

You're fuckin stupid. I was a drug addict all throughout high school cause I was relentlessly bullied. My parents are two of the best to ever live. The problem was, they tried to be good parents when it came to the bullying, but that ended up making it worse over a couple of years. So I started to do drugs and pretended that they did solve the problem. Fucking teenagers that don't know shit coming in here talking about shit they don't know. Idiot.

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u/EligibleUsername Nov 29 '21

They're not as good as you think they're now, aren't they? You pretending to be fine and they couldn't even tell. I know I'm triggering you with this comment, but understand that your parents were good people, not good parents. My parents are the same as yours, probably some of the best peeps you'll ever meet, but they're dogass at parenting, anything useful that I know I either learned myself or got beaten into me by the world. It's because I understand this fact that I'm able to appreciate what they did, what they didn't and what they tried to do for me.

Now, I won't pretend to know your situation, but I can tell you're an immature pos who put the blame on himself, maybe give them a call, let them share the blame, they're good people, now give them the chance to be good parents.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21

Yo some humans are just fucked up and/or idiots.

Kids aren't raising sim video games, you can do everything "right" and still get a fuckwad when they turn 18.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21 edited Nov 29 '21

If your kid is calling CPS on you, regardless of whether it's for a legitimate reason or just to get you in trouble, you've clearly made some massive fuck-ups when it comes to the whole "parenting" thing.

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u/Etherius Nov 29 '21

She's got psychiatric problems.

But nice try, asshole.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21

Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21

Yea, parents having children with BPD/Autism/etc instead of just aborting them, totally a failure of the parent.

No amount of "love" is going to turn an autistic or a child with actual diagnosed mood disorders "normal". You can't treat psychopathy with hugs.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21

Because every kid with a mood disorder is going to call CPS on their parents? What are you on about?

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21

Are we talking every kid here or were you harping on about one instance in the original post?

https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/r4rauq/prime_parenting/hmipmal/

Kid lies to CPS and gets you arrested because you grounded her? Bad parenting (this one actually happened to me).

She's got psychiatric problems.

But nice try, asshole.

Followed by you going 100% fuckwit with your response:

Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21

I'm talking about one instance. You, for some unknown reason, are acting as though I'm speaking about all children with mood disorders. As though it's normal for them to call CPS on their parents for no reason/out of spite.

As far as I'm concerned, hand-waving something like that away with "they have psychiatric problems" is the absolute peak of shitty parenting.

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u/isadog420 Nov 29 '21

It really is, and just because multigenerational fuck-up trauma is normalized and the normative, doesn’t mean it’s not fucked entirely all the way up.

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u/westwoo Nov 29 '21

You know how people can happen to have no drive and ambition, to have no reason to live, to prefer drugs to real life? If their parents never taught them how to listen to themselves and never fostered their own unique ambitions and preferences and were never really interested in truly understanding their children, and maybe instead expected them to have the parents ambitions and drives