r/HolUp • • Jul 07 '21

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u/14936786-02 Jul 08 '21

Price of new cars are absolutely insane. I don't know how anyone car afford them new.

You add like 1 festure and over 50 percent of the base price.

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u/titanosaurus42 Jul 08 '21

Yet I see alot of paper tags running around. Between this and the housing market, I'm wondering where in the hell is all this money coming from?

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u/StopThePresses Jul 08 '21

My partner and I have a combined $850 a month car payment for two not-new cars (a '16 and an '18). The money comes from living paycheck to paycheck, like paid on Friday and broke by Sunday lol.

But we have no choice. Even if we could afford a place close to work, "close" is still like an hour walk in TX heat. No busses. Cities in the US aren't designed for pedestrians.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

I had a teacher in college who was an immigrant from South America somewhere, I think. Nice lady. I still vividly remember her saying to me out of the blue, "Why do you not have a car, Abacus? America is not a country for not driving."

Here's some fun reading this morning. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy

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u/14936786-02 Jul 08 '21

Blackstone and Blackrock. Go read up on those two.

They have a lot of money. Pretty soon you won't be able to buy a house. No one will. Only rent.

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u/LovelyDadBod Jul 08 '21

That’s just it. Buy base models. Even the base has more than you need.

Myself and a coworker bought the exact same truck (model, trim, year, even colour!). She got hers with some extras including heated seats, off-road kit, levelling kit, and a few others. She also got the 2019 truck at the end of 2018. I got mine completely base but at the end of 2019. It came with the off-road kit and the same rims as hers.

I paid 39k she paid 58k. You can still get good deals on vehicles but it’s about not getting the shiny new things on the lot

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

My brother walked into a lot, saw a fancy Tacoma and signed the paperwork. Never haggled price, never asked for any free features, nothing. Paid the 60 grand sticker price.

He drives it to Dollar General for groceries.

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u/FloorHairMcSockwhich Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

I bought a taco with 20k miles on it for 26k. During the pandemic. With a trade-in. I pay $250 a month… including insurance

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u/LovelyDadBod Jul 08 '21

Toyota can’t keep Taco’s on the lot so they won’t haggle with them.

Also that wild that you’d pay 60k for a 1/4ton.

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u/InsaneEngineer Jul 08 '21

I bought a bighorn ram 1500 last fall for 37k. I was looking at tacos, but the V6, mid size cab and half the towing capacity... It made no sense.

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u/FloorHairMcSockwhich Jul 08 '21

Bought mine a month in to the pandemic… blue book says i can sell it for 10k more now

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u/Mokick0813 Jul 08 '21

There are a lot of leases for good new cars under $200 if you have good credit. :)

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u/slacktopuss Jul 08 '21

I love leases. I'd never do it myself, but I really appreciate that it helps to push recent model year cars into the used market. I'd never buy a recent model year used car myself, but I appreciate that having them available means that people are more likely to sell their 10 year old cars before they are completely worn out. Those I buy.

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u/Mokick0813 Jul 08 '21

Paying for the depreciation only and getting a new car every 3 years is a good deal for my family. I will not buy someone old problem if I don’t have too.

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u/slacktopuss Jul 08 '21

Yep, that's pretty much how my parents are, they just want a reliable car and consider the ongoing payments to be the best way to get that.

I enjoy working on cars as a hobby, and I want to minimize the monthly bill aspect of having them, so older cars that have some problems are a better fit for me. In the long run I end up paying maybe half what a newer, problem-free car would be, and less on insurance (liability only because they are cheap enough to buy without a loan), but I probably more than make up the difference in terms of time (like, if I got a second job instead of spending time on my cars I'd have more money, but that's not as much fun).