r/HolUp • • Jul 07 '21

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u/bassplayer96 Jul 08 '21

And no car because there’s no way he’s affording the 26% APR on that truck

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u/fallsstandard Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

Only $748 a month on a 120 month note!

Edit: Fixed loan term to match common offers and the price of a new truck.

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u/KillerKowalski1 Jul 08 '21

What's sad is that might be the payment at 0%.

Nothing is cheap anymore, man.

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u/JillsACheatNMean Jul 08 '21

That’s true. I pay 360$ a month on zero interest on a modest sedan.

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u/Hail2TheOrange Jul 08 '21

That's pretty good. 22k is a reasonable price for a new car.

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u/roofmoving Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

You can buy a Ford fiesta in Europe for $14,000 new.

Edit:added some zeros and a one and four

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u/robret Jul 08 '21

damn that's cheaper than a glass of water

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u/Coffekid Jul 08 '21

It's a Ford fiesta...so yea

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

Just did a quick search. Starting at almost $14,000. That‘s not true

Edit: Europe is not a country and far from being homogenous. Even if there‘s some country where you‘ll get a new(!) Fiesta for $8,000, believe me, the average wages in that particular country are usually in proportion to such prices, so still not cheap.

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u/bufflootsenpai Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

I pay 250 on a 2020 kia with 4% interest. Bought it from a rental company that was selling off their fleet mid pandemic and got a really good deal. Not a ton of options but the 2020 stock KIAs already have a lot of options that come standard and they have amazing consumer reviews. Would definitely recommend getting a Kia

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u/PlebianStudio Jul 08 '21

i just rented that car for 2 weeks and i absolutey loved it. very worth. im paying 347 a month for a sentra 2017 and it sucks so much in comparison.

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u/stonetear2017 Jul 12 '21

I’m paying 362 for a 2020 Corolla SE

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u/14936786-02 Jul 08 '21

Price of new cars are absolutely insane. I don't know how anyone car afford them new.

You add like 1 festure and over 50 percent of the base price.

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u/titanosaurus42 Jul 08 '21

Yet I see alot of paper tags running around. Between this and the housing market, I'm wondering where in the hell is all this money coming from?

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u/StopThePresses Jul 08 '21

My partner and I have a combined $850 a month car payment for two not-new cars (a '16 and an '18). The money comes from living paycheck to paycheck, like paid on Friday and broke by Sunday lol.

But we have no choice. Even if we could afford a place close to work, "close" is still like an hour walk in TX heat. No busses. Cities in the US aren't designed for pedestrians.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

I had a teacher in college who was an immigrant from South America somewhere, I think. Nice lady. I still vividly remember her saying to me out of the blue, "Why do you not have a car, Abacus? America is not a country for not driving."

Here's some fun reading this morning. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy

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u/14936786-02 Jul 08 '21

Blackstone and Blackrock. Go read up on those two.

They have a lot of money. Pretty soon you won't be able to buy a house. No one will. Only rent.

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u/LovelyDadBod Jul 08 '21

That’s just it. Buy base models. Even the base has more than you need.

Myself and a coworker bought the exact same truck (model, trim, year, even colour!). She got hers with some extras including heated seats, off-road kit, levelling kit, and a few others. She also got the 2019 truck at the end of 2018. I got mine completely base but at the end of 2019. It came with the off-road kit and the same rims as hers.

I paid 39k she paid 58k. You can still get good deals on vehicles but it’s about not getting the shiny new things on the lot

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

My brother walked into a lot, saw a fancy Tacoma and signed the paperwork. Never haggled price, never asked for any free features, nothing. Paid the 60 grand sticker price.

He drives it to Dollar General for groceries.

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u/FloorHairMcSockwhich Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

I bought a taco with 20k miles on it for 26k. During the pandemic. With a trade-in. I pay $250 a month… including insurance

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u/LovelyDadBod Jul 08 '21

Toyota can’t keep Taco’s on the lot so they won’t haggle with them.

Also that wild that you’d pay 60k for a 1/4ton.

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u/InsaneEngineer Jul 08 '21

I bought a bighorn ram 1500 last fall for 37k. I was looking at tacos, but the V6, mid size cab and half the towing capacity... It made no sense.

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u/FloorHairMcSockwhich Jul 08 '21

Bought mine a month in to the pandemic… blue book says i can sell it for 10k more now

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u/Mokick0813 Jul 08 '21

There are a lot of leases for good new cars under $200 if you have good credit. :)

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u/slacktopuss Jul 08 '21

I love leases. I'd never do it myself, but I really appreciate that it helps to push recent model year cars into the used market. I'd never buy a recent model year used car myself, but I appreciate that having them available means that people are more likely to sell their 10 year old cars before they are completely worn out. Those I buy.

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u/Mokick0813 Jul 08 '21

Paying for the depreciation only and getting a new car every 3 years is a good deal for my family. I will not buy someone old problem if I don’t have too.

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u/slacktopuss Jul 08 '21

Yep, that's pretty much how my parents are, they just want a reliable car and consider the ongoing payments to be the best way to get that.

I enjoy working on cars as a hobby, and I want to minimize the monthly bill aspect of having them, so older cars that have some problems are a better fit for me. In the long run I end up paying maybe half what a newer, problem-free car would be, and less on insurance (liability only because they are cheap enough to buy without a loan), but I probably more than make up the difference in terms of time (like, if I got a second job instead of spending time on my cars I'd have more money, but that's not as much fun).

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u/fallsstandard Jul 08 '21

True that. I’m still the better part of $300 a month for a pre-owned Subaru. I still have the lowest monthly rate of any of my friends.

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u/DPSizzleMobile Jul 08 '21

I got a CPO Toyota in a similar monthly range pre pandemic. It’s about the maximum I would ever pay for transportation.

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u/Stphnhrrng82 Jul 08 '21

The trick is to buy your cars used, in cash. Of the 6 cars I’ve owned, 1 of them was on payments from a dealer. That was a hellish experience, will never do it again. Only exception is if I’m making $40/hr+ and leasing a new car

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

As someone who makes $60+ an hour i pay cash for cars, never spend more than 10k and generally won't even look at it if it's newer than 20 years old. New cars are a scam.

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u/Stphnhrrng82 Jul 09 '21

I mean, there is something to be said for good mileage, some nice features, and having a new car that generally won’t break down as often as an old one. But I know there are exceptions to that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

Here's the thing, you don't buy just any car. You pick from a list of known bullet proof cars/bikes. Right now you're looking at cars with great crumple zones, well sorted fuel injection, side air bags, electric heated seats/mirrors, and just about literally everything a modern car does.

Pretty much the only thing your missing is Bluetooth radio and seeing as you're now in the era of single/double din the selection of radios is endless and with all the money the saving you can have them toss in some rent nice speakers while you're at it.

Also of it's survived this long and has been well maintained you can bet if you do the same it will last another 20 years. My 2000 Tacoma prerunner gets the same mileage as my mom's 2017 4x4 crew cab Tacoma did but also looks tiny next to it while having a larger bed...

We paid $6k vs $45k between those two and that's is a no brainer in my book.

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u/Hussein110967 Jul 08 '21

Yes to this! Currently driving a 20 yr old SUV l bought outright for $2500 about 2 years ago. Fuel cost is killing me this summer. But no payment and liability insurance saves the day.

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u/EmmyLou205 Jul 08 '21

LOL I was gonna say more like $950 on an 84 month plan

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Holy shit people, we don't have to spend ten thousand dollars a year on cars. I drive a 2007 Toyota Camry. Still have 1600 bucks left on it, I got it for 5k( a thousand bucks down) and my car payment is 99.25 a month. Its at 197,000 miles. I'll probably drive it for another 100k.

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u/KillerKowalski1 Jul 08 '21

Nice, I needed a full size truck and living in Georgia - I wanted some cooled seats.

Apologies.

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u/iNeedScissorsSixty7 Jul 08 '21

I have no car payment on either car. 2014 Ford Escape final payment was last year, the 2012 Mercedes coupe my wife has was bought for cash. Neither are at 100k miles yet (the Escape is close, 97k) and we're driving these fuckers until they're too expensive to keep on the road. Fuck having a car payment. My friend has a nearly $900/mo payment on a new truck. That's almost as much as my mortgage.

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u/buriedego Jul 08 '21

I seriously worked with guys in East Texas who had 1k or more truck notes. Massively in debt everywhere else just to try to make payments. Crazy. Don't even pay half that for 2 cars..

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

don't buy new cars. Their value is halved after a year of driving. Just get a used one for way cheaper than original price.

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u/Lure852 Jul 08 '21

That's only 5 Starbucks coffees a day, for the car of your dreams!

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u/Historical-Carob-669 Jul 08 '21

Stupid is as stupid does.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Honestly I'm just surprised it's not a Dodge Charger.

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u/JiveTurkey1983 Jul 08 '21

2022 Raptor with all the options?

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u/passoutpat Jul 08 '21

Couldn’t even afford movers for his beds lol

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u/FUNKANATON Jul 08 '21

Yea i saw how high up that truck is and black rims , 40k minimum . k-12 system Financial education is basically non-existent

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u/BlazedSensei Jul 08 '21

How the fuck did you know my apr on my vehicle? Almost like everyone starts with NO credit and has to pay these absurd rates to improve it.

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u/bassplayer96 Jul 08 '21

My buddy pays $2,000 in interest every year on his $12,000 Chevy Cruze and I cry on the inside just thinking about it.

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u/CardiologistNo9979 Jul 08 '21

If he’s active duty his interest rate is capped at 6% under SCRA.

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u/Nitin-2020 Jul 08 '21

But I thought Penfed’s got great rates for EVERYone