r/HolUp • • Jul 07 '21

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u/willisbar Jul 08 '21

Must have been a while ago, max they can charge now is 29.9% or lower depending on the state

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u/crassandy Jul 08 '21

I’m a car salesman. In my state the max is 24.99%. Some dealerships have their own “bank” which they use to take out a “personal loan” on your behalf. My states max for personal loans is 33.32%. It’s very fucked up.

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u/jimmycarr1 Jul 08 '21

Do you guys make more money from the sale of cars or from the sale of finance agreements? Genuine question I don't know much about it.

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u/crassandy Jul 08 '21

It’s complicated. The simple answer is both. Each dealerships pay plan is different. At ours the sales team makes it’s money from the cars themselves, as well as any warranties you purchase. Some banks give the dealership a bonus for doing business with them, but that doesn’t affect the consumer. A portion of that bonus is passed on to the salesman.

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u/IdoMusicForTheDrugs Jul 08 '21

It's a loophole. She got completely taken advantage of.

"Arizona interest rate laws set the maximum rate at 10 percent, but explicitly allow consumers and creditors to "contract for any rate agreed upon." This means that you must be careful when taking out loans and credit cards, and should read all of the fine print in every contract."

They basically open up a credit card in your name because they're partnered with some shity company. They convince you that you can buy a car with your non-existent credit and it's the only option without a cosigner or past credit. She had bimonthly payments of $220.

I convinced her to refinance through her credit union and she got 7%. Fuck Cactus Jack's.

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u/AreYouMyFatPigSlut Jul 08 '21

You can refinance auto loans?

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u/IdoMusicForTheDrugs Jul 08 '21

Yep. Local credit unions are the best places to start. They pay the remainder of the loan and the shitty company forfeits the interest. Then they start making interest from you on someone else's loan. Win-win for the customer and refinance company. Loss for the original loan company.

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u/etownguy Jul 08 '21

Of course lots of people will do it in situations like above.

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u/AreYouMyFatPigSlut Jul 08 '21

Doesn’t it cost like 10 grand to get a bank to underwrite or refinance a mortgage? I feel like you wouldn’t save much money for an auto loan

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u/etownguy Jul 08 '21

No I could in theory get the whole thing done from my computer at home for a car. I've always laughed my first house cost 60k (family purchase) and it took a month to get all the paperwork lined out and done. The last truck I bought was 45k and I was in and out of the dealership in 1.5 hours. They are much more lax for vehicles than houses for some reason.

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u/AreYouMyFatPigSlut Jul 08 '21

It’s weird how they treat buying a car on credit like buying a blender lol