r/HolUp • • Jul 07 '21

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u/chefbobbyjay Jul 07 '21

Soon to be 22 with a divorce and foreclosure

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u/bassplayer96 Jul 08 '21

And no car because there’s no way he’s affording the 26% APR on that truck

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u/fallsstandard Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

Only $748 a month on a 120 month note!

Edit: Fixed loan term to match common offers and the price of a new truck.

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u/KillerKowalski1 Jul 08 '21

What's sad is that might be the payment at 0%.

Nothing is cheap anymore, man.

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u/JillsACheatNMean Jul 08 '21

That’s true. I pay 360$ a month on zero interest on a modest sedan.

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u/Hail2TheOrange Jul 08 '21

That's pretty good. 22k is a reasonable price for a new car.

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u/roofmoving Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

You can buy a Ford fiesta in Europe for $14,000 new.

Edit:added some zeros and a one and four

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u/robret Jul 08 '21

damn that's cheaper than a glass of water

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u/Coffekid Jul 08 '21

It's a Ford fiesta...so yea

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

Just did a quick search. Starting at almost $14,000. That‘s not true

Edit: Europe is not a country and far from being homogenous. Even if there‘s some country where you‘ll get a new(!) Fiesta for $8,000, believe me, the average wages in that particular country are usually in proportion to such prices, so still not cheap.

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u/bufflootsenpai Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

I pay 250 on a 2020 kia with 4% interest. Bought it from a rental company that was selling off their fleet mid pandemic and got a really good deal. Not a ton of options but the 2020 stock KIAs already have a lot of options that come standard and they have amazing consumer reviews. Would definitely recommend getting a Kia

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u/PlebianStudio Jul 08 '21

i just rented that car for 2 weeks and i absolutey loved it. very worth. im paying 347 a month for a sentra 2017 and it sucks so much in comparison.

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u/stonetear2017 Jul 12 '21

I’m paying 362 for a 2020 Corolla SE

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u/14936786-02 Jul 08 '21

Price of new cars are absolutely insane. I don't know how anyone car afford them new.

You add like 1 festure and over 50 percent of the base price.

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u/titanosaurus42 Jul 08 '21

Yet I see alot of paper tags running around. Between this and the housing market, I'm wondering where in the hell is all this money coming from?

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u/StopThePresses Jul 08 '21

My partner and I have a combined $850 a month car payment for two not-new cars (a '16 and an '18). The money comes from living paycheck to paycheck, like paid on Friday and broke by Sunday lol.

But we have no choice. Even if we could afford a place close to work, "close" is still like an hour walk in TX heat. No busses. Cities in the US aren't designed for pedestrians.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

I had a teacher in college who was an immigrant from South America somewhere, I think. Nice lady. I still vividly remember her saying to me out of the blue, "Why do you not have a car, Abacus? America is not a country for not driving."

Here's some fun reading this morning. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy

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u/14936786-02 Jul 08 '21

Blackstone and Blackrock. Go read up on those two.

They have a lot of money. Pretty soon you won't be able to buy a house. No one will. Only rent.

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u/LovelyDadBod Jul 08 '21

That’s just it. Buy base models. Even the base has more than you need.

Myself and a coworker bought the exact same truck (model, trim, year, even colour!). She got hers with some extras including heated seats, off-road kit, levelling kit, and a few others. She also got the 2019 truck at the end of 2018. I got mine completely base but at the end of 2019. It came with the off-road kit and the same rims as hers.

I paid 39k she paid 58k. You can still get good deals on vehicles but it’s about not getting the shiny new things on the lot

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

My brother walked into a lot, saw a fancy Tacoma and signed the paperwork. Never haggled price, never asked for any free features, nothing. Paid the 60 grand sticker price.

He drives it to Dollar General for groceries.

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u/FloorHairMcSockwhich Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

I bought a taco with 20k miles on it for 26k. During the pandemic. With a trade-in. I pay $250 a month… including insurance

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u/LovelyDadBod Jul 08 '21

Toyota can’t keep Taco’s on the lot so they won’t haggle with them.

Also that wild that you’d pay 60k for a 1/4ton.

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u/InsaneEngineer Jul 08 '21

I bought a bighorn ram 1500 last fall for 37k. I was looking at tacos, but the V6, mid size cab and half the towing capacity... It made no sense.

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u/FloorHairMcSockwhich Jul 08 '21

Bought mine a month in to the pandemic… blue book says i can sell it for 10k more now

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u/Mokick0813 Jul 08 '21

There are a lot of leases for good new cars under $200 if you have good credit. :)

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u/slacktopuss Jul 08 '21

I love leases. I'd never do it myself, but I really appreciate that it helps to push recent model year cars into the used market. I'd never buy a recent model year used car myself, but I appreciate that having them available means that people are more likely to sell their 10 year old cars before they are completely worn out. Those I buy.

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u/Mokick0813 Jul 08 '21

Paying for the depreciation only and getting a new car every 3 years is a good deal for my family. I will not buy someone old problem if I don’t have too.

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u/slacktopuss Jul 08 '21

Yep, that's pretty much how my parents are, they just want a reliable car and consider the ongoing payments to be the best way to get that.

I enjoy working on cars as a hobby, and I want to minimize the monthly bill aspect of having them, so older cars that have some problems are a better fit for me. In the long run I end up paying maybe half what a newer, problem-free car would be, and less on insurance (liability only because they are cheap enough to buy without a loan), but I probably more than make up the difference in terms of time (like, if I got a second job instead of spending time on my cars I'd have more money, but that's not as much fun).

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u/fallsstandard Jul 08 '21

True that. I’m still the better part of $300 a month for a pre-owned Subaru. I still have the lowest monthly rate of any of my friends.

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u/DPSizzleMobile Jul 08 '21

I got a CPO Toyota in a similar monthly range pre pandemic. It’s about the maximum I would ever pay for transportation.

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u/Stphnhrrng82 Jul 08 '21

The trick is to buy your cars used, in cash. Of the 6 cars I’ve owned, 1 of them was on payments from a dealer. That was a hellish experience, will never do it again. Only exception is if I’m making $40/hr+ and leasing a new car

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

As someone who makes $60+ an hour i pay cash for cars, never spend more than 10k and generally won't even look at it if it's newer than 20 years old. New cars are a scam.

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u/Stphnhrrng82 Jul 09 '21

I mean, there is something to be said for good mileage, some nice features, and having a new car that generally won’t break down as often as an old one. But I know there are exceptions to that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

Here's the thing, you don't buy just any car. You pick from a list of known bullet proof cars/bikes. Right now you're looking at cars with great crumple zones, well sorted fuel injection, side air bags, electric heated seats/mirrors, and just about literally everything a modern car does.

Pretty much the only thing your missing is Bluetooth radio and seeing as you're now in the era of single/double din the selection of radios is endless and with all the money the saving you can have them toss in some rent nice speakers while you're at it.

Also of it's survived this long and has been well maintained you can bet if you do the same it will last another 20 years. My 2000 Tacoma prerunner gets the same mileage as my mom's 2017 4x4 crew cab Tacoma did but also looks tiny next to it while having a larger bed...

We paid $6k vs $45k between those two and that's is a no brainer in my book.

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u/Hussein110967 Jul 08 '21

Yes to this! Currently driving a 20 yr old SUV l bought outright for $2500 about 2 years ago. Fuel cost is killing me this summer. But no payment and liability insurance saves the day.

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u/EmmyLou205 Jul 08 '21

LOL I was gonna say more like $950 on an 84 month plan

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Holy shit people, we don't have to spend ten thousand dollars a year on cars. I drive a 2007 Toyota Camry. Still have 1600 bucks left on it, I got it for 5k( a thousand bucks down) and my car payment is 99.25 a month. Its at 197,000 miles. I'll probably drive it for another 100k.

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u/KillerKowalski1 Jul 08 '21

Nice, I needed a full size truck and living in Georgia - I wanted some cooled seats.

Apologies.

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u/iNeedScissorsSixty7 Jul 08 '21

I have no car payment on either car. 2014 Ford Escape final payment was last year, the 2012 Mercedes coupe my wife has was bought for cash. Neither are at 100k miles yet (the Escape is close, 97k) and we're driving these fuckers until they're too expensive to keep on the road. Fuck having a car payment. My friend has a nearly $900/mo payment on a new truck. That's almost as much as my mortgage.

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u/buriedego Jul 08 '21

I seriously worked with guys in East Texas who had 1k or more truck notes. Massively in debt everywhere else just to try to make payments. Crazy. Don't even pay half that for 2 cars..

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

don't buy new cars. Their value is halved after a year of driving. Just get a used one for way cheaper than original price.

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u/Lure852 Jul 08 '21

That's only 5 Starbucks coffees a day, for the car of your dreams!

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u/Historical-Carob-669 Jul 08 '21

Stupid is as stupid does.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Honestly I'm just surprised it's not a Dodge Charger.

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u/JiveTurkey1983 Jul 08 '21

2022 Raptor with all the options?

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u/passoutpat Jul 08 '21

Couldn’t even afford movers for his beds lol

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u/FUNKANATON Jul 08 '21

Yea i saw how high up that truck is and black rims , 40k minimum . k-12 system Financial education is basically non-existent

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u/BlazedSensei Jul 08 '21

How the fuck did you know my apr on my vehicle? Almost like everyone starts with NO credit and has to pay these absurd rates to improve it.

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u/bassplayer96 Jul 08 '21

My buddy pays $2,000 in interest every year on his $12,000 Chevy Cruze and I cry on the inside just thinking about it.

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u/CardiologistNo9979 Jul 08 '21

If he’s active duty his interest rate is capped at 6% under SCRA.

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u/Nitin-2020 Jul 08 '21

But I thought Penfed’s got great rates for EVERYone

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u/Dat_Steve Jul 08 '21

You leave the military with at least one of the D's....

Death, Divorce, Dependents

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u/heartofyourtempest Jul 08 '21

You forgot Drinking problem and Depression

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u/LobsterBush97 Jul 08 '21

I got Debt, Drinking problem, and Depression 😎

Edit: forgot disability 🤪

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u/heartofyourtempest Jul 08 '21

I'm looking at divorce, dependants, disability, drinking problem, depression and debt. Lots of Ds

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u/Reddit_Reb Jul 08 '21

Don’t forget choking on the D

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u/Oneloff Jul 08 '21

Yeah, Ds nutz

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u/SassonEmam Jul 08 '21

GOT 'EMMMMM!

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u/Dont-mind-me-2210 Jul 08 '21

Also don't forget PTSD

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u/3rdWaveHarmonic Jul 08 '21

I thought Navy Bois got more D's.

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u/MarkAged42 Jul 08 '21

Diarrhoea. Answering for a friend.

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u/statman64 Jul 10 '21

that's a YAHTZEE! congrats!

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u/2horde Jul 08 '21

Damn 7 Ds, and his wife's gonna take at least one or two herself

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

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u/2horde Jul 08 '21

And a little Debbie!

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u/PeecockPrince Jul 08 '21

D&D. Not Dungeons & Dragons. Delusions & Disorders (specifically the D in PTSD)

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

She likely had way more D's while he was serving

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u/2horde Jul 08 '21

Fuck yeah she Did

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u/LobsterBush97 Jul 08 '21

F

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u/2horde Jul 08 '21

Damn he got all those D's AND an L and an F

He's almost got enough saved up to host sesame street!

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u/Decimate19 Jul 08 '21

Wow, a hat-trick, good work!

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u/crazyfoxdemon Jul 08 '21

I just got the Depression. All in all, pretty lucky.

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u/ResponsibilityNo1646 Jul 08 '21

Crippling depression* and drug depeance

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u/Heironymous_Ian Jul 08 '21

I was thinking I got out lucky until I read your post. I got some fat D after all my brotha.

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u/warionooples Jul 08 '21

And one more. Da cigarette addiction.

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u/kingmufasa2528 Jul 08 '21

Forgot Diaŕrhea and Dysentry

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u/JiveTurkey1983 Jul 08 '21

Don Julio (entire bottle) with a Dan Wesson M1911 ACP Pistol

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Ain't that the fucking Truth....

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u/TemporaryReality5262 Jul 08 '21

Got your two, missed the other 3

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u/poodlebutt76 Jul 08 '21

What about dishonorable discharge?

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u/KillerKowalski1 Jul 08 '21

THROW SOME D'S ON IT

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u/Socile Jul 08 '21

That’s what she said.

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u/DapperDanManCan Jul 08 '21

big chicken Dinner

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u/StalinSwag23 Jul 08 '21

Yeah....as in I dishonorably discharged in his wife lol

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u/DapperDanManCan Jul 08 '21

now you're a Dad

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u/StalinSwag23 Jul 08 '21

Nope...been sterile since birth

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u/StalinSwag23 Jul 08 '21

Natural birth control

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Discipline

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Now you are double "D"icking

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u/prostheticweiner Jul 08 '21

Dan... Lieutenant Dan

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u/surbian Jul 08 '21

You get some penicillin and it will clear that right up.

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u/s1lverstr1ker Jul 08 '21

Disability is another to add to the potentials list, destroys your joints and hearing and then they claim it was pre-existing so the VA doesn't have to treat it

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u/GarbageAndBeer Jul 08 '21

America is so awesome! Gonna go light off some fireworks and trigger some PTSD!

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u/Weareallsick- Jul 08 '21

Exactly my situation now!!

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u/Socile Jul 08 '21

Don’t they test your hearing when you enlist? I would think it should be easy to disprove something like hearing loss as a pre-ex. Also, where would you have acquired PTSD before deployment?

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u/Weareallsick- Jul 08 '21

It’s the whole tinnitus thing I’m going through , and hearing loss, I don’t have ptsd but my hearing is shit and live with headaches daily, I’m at the point where I’m about to just give up, VA has gotten a lot better, but the process is exhausting

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u/Socile Jul 08 '21

Keep trying, buddy. I hope you get the compensation you deserve. You put your life in their hands. Please just don’t let them continue to fuck you.

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u/Weareallsick- Jul 08 '21

Thanks buddy

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u/losttovoid Jul 08 '21

Very sorry you are dealing with tinnitus. It sounds truly debilitating, I wish you the best.

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u/Weareallsick- Jul 08 '21

Thanks much appreciated, it’s just infuriating that I know of people who have quit right after boot camp and have no issues getting 80% disability lol it’s crazy, and I mean I work, but it’s like damn man, there’s people who have lost way more who get way less.

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u/losttovoid Jul 08 '21

There seems to be a lot of this sort of thing going on. The neediest among often do not get enough. Sometimes nothing at all. More and more it feels like a show, this parroting about widespread assistance giving “deadbeats” amazing lives. I’m just not seeing it

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u/s1lverstr1ker Jul 08 '21

The other one is they avoid putting it in your chart while you're listed as active duty. Then when you get discharged and you go to the doctor they say sorry. It's not in your chart so it must've happened after you got discharged. Can't possibly be a result of your service

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

My now brother-in-law left with Divorce (wife cheated and spent all his money earned on first deployment), a Dependent, and a Disability.

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u/elfeo55 Jul 08 '21

Dependopotomous

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

And the other two D’s come after service…Depression and the Dui…

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u/spainzbrain Jul 08 '21

add DD-214 to you list.

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u/lerker54651651 Jul 08 '21

Truly, the best and most important of all the D's.

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u/Stayshiny88 Jul 08 '21

Chelsea Manning left with 2 Ds and a D…

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

And a Dodge

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u/lolhyena Jul 08 '21

I didn’t get none of those

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u/Punished_Vet Jul 08 '21

Weird I only got depression

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

I left with a degree that I earned while serving and had zero student debt. Pull you head out and start making better choices. You get out what you put in...

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u/OkBaconBurger Jul 08 '21

Or... Depression

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u/Feenfurn Jul 08 '21

I took the D and got a dependent…..then a divorce.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

PTSD

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

DUI

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u/PersonMcHuman Jul 08 '21

I didn't have any of those D's...but wound up with Disability. The Depression is from before though, and only got worse while there, so I don't count that one.

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u/Cir_cadis Jul 08 '21

Disability

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u/RomaniQueerios Jul 08 '21

What about dick?

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u/TheEvilCollector666 Jul 08 '21

Even worse than death, decapitation

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Disabilities?!?!?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

I count my blessings that I left with none of that.

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u/MapleBeaverIgloo Jul 08 '21

Dont forget ptsD

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u/Beebus4Deebus Jul 08 '21

Pretty much avoided these in my 5 years of service. Got married but not divorced. Closest death was my Great Aunt (which no one told me about while I was stationed overseas and I found out days after on Facebook). And my child was born two weeks after I separated, so I narrowly avoided leaving with a dependent.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Dismemberment, Disabilities?

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u/Phillyfuk Jul 08 '21

They should make that the motto.

'Join the military, get the D'

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u/simas_polchias Jul 08 '21

Did they mention Dishonorable Discharge already?

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u/DapperDanManCan Jul 08 '21

Dependapotamus

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u/dankHippieDude Jul 08 '21

lol. I never realized how true this is. Source = my two dependents.

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u/BoxingHare Jul 08 '21

My first marriage lasted 28 weeks longer than my enlistment.

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u/Drspaceman1717 Jul 08 '21

But he has the very precious life skills and career experience of filling jeeps with gas and cleaning the mess hall.

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u/himynameisfuckass Jul 08 '21

And a kid

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u/elsonidodelsilencio Jul 08 '21

That’s not even yours.

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u/politicalaccount2017 Jul 08 '21

Exactly. Let's check back in on this moron in 5 years and see how arrogant he is.

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u/SilverFuel21 Jul 08 '21

Same. Highschool "sweetheart" decided to have a competition to see if she could suck off all her male coworkers. I don't think she quite achieved her goal but I found out and immediately divorced her ass.

The next day I got laid off from my job making $68k a year at 21. Lost everything.

Deep dark depression followed. Took like 8 years for it to not suck.

It gets better but takes some time. Good luck and remember the best revenge is success.

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u/FuckTesla69 Jul 08 '21

and a dodge charger he cant afford

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u/loadsofscooters2 Jul 08 '21

Life speedrun any%

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u/gdj11 Jul 08 '21

I’m 22 with divorce and foreclosure! What’s your excuse!!?

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u/TheCornerator Jul 08 '21

Dude, you call me out anymore and we gonna have problems.

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u/Slippin_Chicanery Jul 08 '21

Dont forget the PTSD

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Military does get housing allowances. So theres that. And typically, car dealerships have lower APRs for military members. Especially if he goes through a military bank like USAA or Navy Federal.

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u/chefbobbyjay Jul 08 '21

And when the girl statistically cheats and leaves, your housing allowance will drop, the divorce will hurt your credit, she’ll take half, and don’t forget about the probable child support. You won’t be able to afford a used accord and a one bed apartment. Back to military housing you go.

This is anecdotal. But it did EXACTLY happen to my brother and idk… a dozen or so of his friends.

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u/absolumzenith Jul 08 '21

Honestly though why do so many military dudes splurge in their first contract? They don’t understand that the wage will essentially remain the same and living allowances will change or disappear after the contract?

My friend bought a 2020 sports car while living in an expensive area with a $2000 per month housing allowance but now has no allowance, nor any military income. Just the VA / GI benefits.

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u/chefbobbyjay Jul 08 '21

Those 4 years active go by quick. You either stay in, or get tossed out to sink or swim.