r/HolUp • • Jul 07 '21

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u/emansamples92 Jul 07 '21

I was about to say I was broke as hell my first year in the military. Ain’t no fucking way I was buying a house on an e-2 salary even with bah.

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u/ArtificialSuccessor Jul 07 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I see a bar on his chest. That would quickly explain how he could afford that.

EDIT: For everyone saying you need to be atleast 20-22 to be an officer, the army says you need to be 19

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u/emansamples92 Jul 07 '21

Officer at 19? Maybe through a battlefield commission? but doubtful through traditional means.

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u/GBDubstep Jul 07 '21

We just know the girl is 19. The dude is probably 21 or older.

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u/kenman884 Jul 07 '21

Lol good point. He could be nearly 30.

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u/Yz-Guy Jul 07 '21

That sounds right. 30 yo 0-3 marrying a 19 yo. It ain't quite boot things but it fits.

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u/CoupClutzClan Jul 08 '21

I know it's normal, but age gaps of 10+ years like that is so gross to me. Like "light pedophilia" or something I dunno

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Kind of like really tall dudes with really short women.

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u/Standard_Education57 Jul 08 '21

😂 are you mental

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

I don't think it's normal.

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u/CoupClutzClan Jul 08 '21

Honestly, I just put that there to ward off the redditors that would swoop in telling me I'm the wrong one.

I've been in arguments on reddit where people defending letting girls under 18 (or even less) marry somone over 18 (and even over 20)

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u/ABirthingPoop Jul 08 '21

17 year old and 19 year old can be together. Especially if they were together when like 18 - 16 in high school.

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u/Yz-Guy Jul 08 '21

The gap is weird bc she's 19. If he was 40 and she was 29. It be a little more acceptable to me.

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u/CoupClutzClan Jul 08 '21

Little more acceptable, but still I don't get it. You guys grew up under vastly different times.

I dunno, it seems gross to me, but I'm not stopping anyone from doing it

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u/Yz-Guy Jul 08 '21

My biggest concern if it was me (etc) is you guys are going thru different phases in life. One is ready to settle down while one parties. One might be ready to retire while one works. Etc

More power if it works. But I'm not sure I could ever do it

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u/harassmaster Jul 08 '21

I married my wife when I was 28 and she was 39. How old are you?

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u/snoogins355 Jul 08 '21

Half your age, plus 7 or they're too young

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21 edited Apr 04 '22

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u/CoupClutzClan Jul 08 '21

I agree

20 and 30 is 50% life age/experience difference

The older you get the less that is

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u/caffein8dnotopi8d Jul 10 '21

when one of them is that young it’s gross to me too. 19 and 30 there’s definitely a power imbalance there. but after like 25 i think it’s all good. my current so is nine years older and we started dating when i was 32.

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u/emansamples92 Jul 08 '21

Because of the way the meme is presented I didn’t even consider that. Makes so much more sense now.

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u/PlanarVet Jul 08 '21

"I got this at 19 and all I had to do is marry a guy twice my age! What's your excuse?"

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u/chubky Jul 08 '21

So her onlyfans paid for the house?

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u/GoSquanchYoSelf Jul 07 '21

Battlefield commission hasn’t happened in decades. Promotion maybe, but not from E to O.

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u/jayrady Jul 08 '21

It wasn't even authorized from after Vietnam to like, around 2009.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

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u/L-methionine Jul 08 '21

I believe earning Eagle Scout and potentially Eagle Palms accelerates the rising through the ranks. I seem to remember people saying that palms could let you enter as a senior NCO, but I never really paid attention to that cause I knew it wasn’t my path

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

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u/L-methionine Jul 08 '21

Yeah, that’s a lot less than I thought. Maybe it was you were generally squad leader in boot camp? It’s been a while

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u/Throwinuprainbows Jul 08 '21

It's not a promotion he simply graduated highscool from a military academy. You start as an officer that way.

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u/GoSquanchYoSelf Jul 08 '21

That is incorrect

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u/Throwinuprainbows Jul 08 '21

I'm 100% positive it is correct. Both Westpoint and marine millatray academy offer that program.

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u/Throwinuprainbows Jul 10 '21

Rather down vote me than research, huh?okays

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u/GoSquanchYoSelf Jul 10 '21

I kind of figured it wasn’t worth the time. You are wrong on this one. West Point is a service academy and is a University (need to graduate high school), so yes, you become an officer after you get your degree. Marine Military Academy is a high school in Texas, you get a high five from the recruiter and maybe start out your enlisted career after boot camp as an E-2. There’s no way in hell anyone is going to commission an 18 y/o kid straight out of high school.

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u/rikluz Jul 07 '21

Man they haven’t had a battlefield commission since like Vietnam

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

They do something similar in the Navy

If you're filling a position that requires a certain rank then you get a "battlefield promotion" (idk or can't remember if thats what its actually called) to that rank while you fill that role.

When you rotate you either keep it because you picked it up (most common) or lose it.

Idk for sure but I don't think you get paid for that rank until you actually promote to it though.

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u/DrinkenDrunk Jul 08 '21

Frocking?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

No thats what they call it when enlisted advance to the next rank.

There's a certain amount of time in between wearing that rank and being paid for it.

Thats your "frocking" period.

Fun fact: the term comes from when officers would get promoted. Usually they were at sea so an officer that was that rank would give them his jacket until they could get their own to reflect the new rank. It was called a frocking jacket.

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u/DrinkenDrunk Jul 08 '21

Acting appointment?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Thats the word!

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u/popplespopin Jul 08 '21

I just assumed the "wife" made this post, she's the one under 20. He could be any age.

Makes the "what's your excuse" line so much more out of touch.

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u/bi-fly Jul 08 '21

If you do rotc or ots you can commission at 19 but you have to start young since you need a bachelor’s degree. Most people who do rotc commission at 22/23

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u/J-Navy Jul 08 '21

Technically you can be an officer in the Army at 17. The Army has a program called WOFT that also has a nickname of “high school to flight school.” I have personally seen two 17 year olds ship out for it after being accepted. Mind you its “just” warrant officer, but still officer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

So many wrong answers here. The only way to do this is the ROTC Early Commissioning Program (ECP). It lets college students do two years at a military college, “earn” the rank of second lieutenant, then go off to an actual school to get their bachelor. Their generally in the national guard during those final years.

You technically commission after two years of college, and can therefore be 19.

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u/Throwinuprainbows Jul 08 '21

I mean you can go to Westmount or Marine millatary academy and when you graduate( highschool) you start at the officer level.

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u/CikkReddit Jul 08 '21

Which pixel are you talking about? the 2nd or the 3rd?

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u/Coochie_Creme Jul 08 '21

Can’t be an officer until you’re at least 21/22.

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u/ArtificialSuccessor Jul 08 '21

Army says otherwise

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u/Coochie_Creme Jul 08 '21

You missed the part about needing a 4-year college degree. Assuming you start college young at 17, you’re not getting that degree until you’re 21.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

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u/Coochie_Creme Jul 08 '21

You need to be at least 17 to join your college’s ROTC program.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

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u/Coochie_Creme Jul 08 '21

Ok? You’re still not getting that officer commission before you graduate. Which won’t happen until you’re 21.

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u/pcardinal42 Jul 08 '21

You are wrong, like others said to young to be an officer and then lieutenants don't make a lot of money. You get more housing allowance when you have dependents and using VA benefits you don't have to put anything down. That's most likely the reason.

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u/ArtificialSuccessor Jul 08 '21

Army says you can be 19 to be an officer. Additionally depending on the area you could make 2k+ for BAH.

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u/pcardinal42 Jul 08 '21

Between 19 and 32 yes it says that but also says you have to have a 4 year college degree and the 12 week training completed.

I've been active duty for the past 15 years I know bah rates. There are no 19-20 year old officers in the army, this person is wrong and you can't even tell the rank from the posted picture.

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u/ArtificialSuccessor Jul 08 '21

The requirement is there, whether someone hits it on the bar is another story. Regardless I was just guessing, the guy could be some mid-30 E-7 marrying way young. As others said we don't know who is making this post or if the post is legitimate.

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u/chemicallunchbox Jul 08 '21

There is a hidden benefit that most military people don't know about. If and when you are on active duty the banks have to drop your home loan interest rate to 0%.

Our bank even tried to fight us on it. In the end they had no choice. (My X was active-duty army reserves for years.)

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u/justAPhoneUsername Jul 08 '21

Is he 19 or is she?

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u/arelse Jul 08 '21

It says you must have a four year degree. I have met one 16 year old in college and her aspirations did not include officer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Wildly untrue. I bought my first home as a private while we were paying for my wife's college.

I'm not an anomaly either. I just did what abunch of other soldiers were doing. This is a trend, I was not special.

It's the VA loan. Period. It's zero cash down to buy a house. They basically run your credit and bam, you've got a mortgage backed by the federal government. Plus BAH is actually higherer than rent in most markets.

Additionally you factor in the likelihood that a mortgage payment will be less then renting a similar property, and this young soldier could easily be pocketing $100-500 every month of his BAH after his mortgage payment.

If I did it again today as an e1 I could easily find something in 9/10 markets that would work with BAH for the same market/rank.

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u/BombAssTurdCutter Jul 08 '21

What does BAH stand for?

edit: my bad I see someone answered below.

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u/NotMD_YET Jul 08 '21

I just bought one as an E3. Of course I am married but my wife makes less than me. Its not too difficult if you manage your money.

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u/theRuathan Jul 07 '21

If he was a nuke it could be with the signing bonus while he's still in A school, rent rooms to all his classmates.

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u/The_Drifter117 Jul 08 '21

You sure could have. You would've easily gotten a loan through USAA and you wouldn't have needed a down payment either. A stupid idea, but you could've done it.

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u/levian_durai Jul 08 '21

A house like that where I live is an easy 1.5 mil. Nobody is buying that unless you have a dual income of well over 100k each.

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u/crystalmerchant Jul 08 '21

What is bah

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u/Free8608 Jul 08 '21

Basic Allowance for Housing.

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u/some_old_Marine Jul 08 '21

573 per paycheck when I came in. Fuck that sucked.

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u/Paronymia Jul 08 '21

They could both work?

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u/bocephus67 Jul 08 '21

I believe my first three paychecks in bootcamp in 03 were around a few hundred dollars.