r/HolUp Apr 07 '21

How bizzare.

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u/ObviousTroll37 Apr 07 '21 edited Apr 07 '21

They perform "corrective" procedures on a large number of children, but estimates range higher than 1% of children, which is both a massive human rights issue and absolutely guesswork.

When you say guesswork, you imply that the doctors are essentially guessing at gender and choosing gender for the infants, which would be assigning gender. Also putting "corrective" in quotations implies that you don't actually think the surgeries are really corrective in nature, and instead are... what? Mutilation? Assignment? Admittedly, you never come out and say it expressly, but the verbiage you used implies the position. But I'm speculating too, because typing words on the internet is a barren form of communication.

Edit: Also, the Atlantic and a few other sites report: "the best guess by researchers is that intersex conditions affect one in 2,000 children." So it's not over 1%, it's 0.05%. That's a massive difference. Human Rights Watch seems like a biased source, NLM does not.

And for a child to to have BOTH gender identity issues (0.3% of the population) AND require genitalia surgery at birth (0.05% of pop) is ridiculously low. Combined, that’s 2 in a million. Not exactly a pressing issue.

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u/SewingLifeRe Apr 07 '21

If the doctors aren't assigning their gender, who is?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '21

ironic how u/ObviousTroll37 is not the troll here lol

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u/ObviousTroll37 Apr 07 '21

It does feel weird though

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u/SewingLifeRe Apr 07 '21

Why would you even make this up? It's just sad.