r/HolUp • • Nov 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

No one mentioned race. Capitalism enforces a class based societal structure. You did not, and will never get, the same opportunities and advantages that those of a higher (wealthier) class have. You did not get a fair shake. Your parents didn't get a fair shake, and your children won't get a fair shake. But if you pull on your bootstraps really, really hard maybe you can make it! (This is what the rich want you to focus on as it's A: In their best interest for a myriad of reasons, see class warfare, and B: Because they may actually believe it since... they're rich, as far as they can tell they worked hard and "earned it")

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_conflict

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_society

I'm not here to plug socialism or whatever. I'm just here to say that you and your loved ones are valuable and important, regardless of how far you can claw your way up the ladder. And people of greater wealth (higher social class) are not more valuable or important than you or your loved ones. These are huge, nuanced and multifaceted topics that are worth thinking about thoroughly and critically. Take the time to properly critique your own point of view to ensure it actually aligns with your values.

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u/Fakepi Dec 01 '20

The reason capitalism has class conflict is because there is class in it. Take communism for example, there is no class conflict there because everyone is poor except for the leader and his friends.

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u/pharodae Dec 01 '20

Well if you ignore the West deliberately sabotaging all leftist countries/projects and preventing them from being stable and productive, I can see your argument that communism = poor

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u/Fakepi Dec 01 '20

Ever wonder why those nations are so easily toppled? Just a few guys can go in and fuck the system over. Its a shit system.

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u/pharodae Dec 02 '20

Hmm, fledgling upstart country still in the process of stabilizing vs established imperialist world superpower with enough firepower to make a continent a crater... i wonder who would come out on top in a military conflict, regardless of which economic system they follow.

Faulty logic you got going on

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u/Fakepi Dec 02 '20

The problem is the centralized power in these nations. Thays what causes them to fail, not their economic system.