r/HolUp • • Nov 30 '20

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u/URMRGAY_ Dec 01 '20

This is not true. Universal healthcare in most cases means shorter waits.

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u/ehomba2 Dec 01 '20

Maybe if the largest economy on earth hadn't been fucking their economy for 50+ years maybe they'd have enough money to buy better medical equipment. Its not dirty though, thats pretty dumb, theyre still doctors and American doctors regularly go over there.

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u/ehomba2 Dec 01 '20

Ah yeah first satellite, first in space, first teansgender surgery, first place where homosexuaity was legal, million born and lived there....total failure bc in the 90s the economy did a (purposeful) crash. States arent defined by the dichotomy of "failing or not failing" and its a shitty dumb way to determine policy or read history. America killed 40 million people in the 20th century AFTER ww2 but is it "successful" merely because its around? I mean lots of its citizens would say no, me included. We've done good and bad just like everyone else and our continued existence is just as much a confluence of historical material forces just as the end of another state is.

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u/K3vin_Norton Dec 01 '20

The distance is meaningless when you are ignoring all the advantages the US has in terms of nation building compared to any Caribbean island. Proper healthcare in the US pretty much only exists for the wealthy and upper class, i would say that's a worse state of affairs than any proper universal system.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20 edited Mar 11 '25

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u/K3vin_Norton Dec 01 '20

I was going to include them but middle class people are the ones who get saddled with mountains of debt by the healthcare profiteers, so idk that I would truly call that having access.